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This is the place for discussing the potential collapse of modern civilization and the environment.


Collapse, in this context, refers to the significant loss of an established level or complexity towards a much simpler state. It can occur differently within many areas, orderly or chaotically, and be willing or unwilling. It does not necessarily imply human extinction or a singular, global event. Although, the longer the duration, the more it resembles a ‘decline’ instead of collapse.


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[–] trevor@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Many people have a preference for civility politics. They prefer negative peace over a positive justice. They have similar reactions when vegan animal rights activists point out things that trigger their cognitive dissonance.

Thankfully, their pissing and moaning about these groups still bring more attention to these urgent issues than quietly begging for justice ever has, so even if they don't like it, these kinds of stunts are still effective.

[–] BlessedDog@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Protests are meant to disrupt, some people just dont seem to get it.

[–] eleitl@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I don't boo them. But their message is equivalent to "let's lose over 90% of Earth's population over a couple of years" which isn't too popular for some strange reason.

A better message would be "let's use all what's left of fossil energy to build out renewable energy infrastructure and downscale our lifestyles radically, as the time is short". While still losing a lot of people, but that part is not said aloud.

[–] ntzm@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Most people get their opinions from the people around them, and the media they consume. If the media talked about them in a better light, it would change people's opinions on them. People also hate the idea of being mildly inconvenienced, especially since most of the progress we've had from technology has been about improving convenience.