add this to the list of games that flopped before I even knew they existed, You really do have to put down real money to market games if you want people to purchase them
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Maybe we should have two ratings? Saying its a flop is vague, yes it mostly means it didn't sell, but why? In this case, I didn't even hear about it there are so many millions of games. But is it a good game regardless? Is it fun to play? These types of headlines don't really answer that and just push negative press.
It reviewed pretty poorly, but that's no guarantee.
I have to say, even with a good game it would suck to release something kinda niche this year, and the Warhammer brand means so little these days, games under that release through a firehose at this point, it's hard to know what's coming up, let alone if it's any good.
Well with Warhammer games, its 90% RTS, 8% one-offs like Boltgun, and the other 2% is the Tide games. They don't like to take risks or move to far away from the table top and mostly leave that up to brave studios who get a license. The market is prime for a WH40K soulslike right now.
There's a bunch more than that, and many just... come and go and often people don't even notice.
I mean, come on, how many people on this thread wouldn't even have known this game existed if Frontier wasn't slightly higher profile than most devs working on these?
The 40K soulslike idea is... probably gonna happen eventually, I dunno. I'm not a big soulslike guy. Hey, maybe Space Marine 2 is good. Looks nice, anyway.
For what it's worth, what I really would like to see is a 40K game that is not about the space theocratic fascists for once. I should go back to play the Dawn of War sequel that nobody remembers happened, either, since that was the last time you got Eldar as a faction. And even then only because it was a throwback game to the first Dawn of War.
An open-world game where you are the target of the Imperium's xenophobia and hatred would probably be pretty hot right now considering world events. But GW would be way too scared to make the Imperium the actual antagonists of a piece of media because space marines are their cash cow.
If that entire franchise's fanbase needs a sanity check for a reason, it's for that.
I know they look cool and they're easy to paint because of all the flat surfaces, but come on.
It's fine for your dark fantasy setting to have no good guys. It's EXTREMELY not fine for your dark fantasy theocratic racists to become the good guys and for you to do nothing to stop it from happening.
There might be underlying problems with our collective psyche. We seem to gravitate towards strong figures clouded in religious myths.
Also, I'm a Wagh kinda guy myself. Nuthen beetz a gud ol' krumpin'.
Honestly, the Orks may be the most intellectually honest faction in that whole mess. They mostly just like to fight and think everybody else is a dick. And they're right.
But nah, when teenage me came to the idea of haughty, elitist space elves in hoverbikes there was never any other option. But they're not the good guys. Nobody should be the good guys in that. ESPECIALLY not the human factions.
That might be where most people have a problem. This may be completely anecdotal, but it seems a majority of people want things to be black and white. They want their villians easily identifiable, they want their heroes as pure as the first oxygen molecule. That may be why a lot of fans seem to choose the Space Marines as the "good guys" in a galaxy where there are none. I'll never understand it cause its boring, put that yin in my yang and vice versa. I want stained heroes and misguided antagonists. I want a pain in my heart as it tries to decide who to root for.
I feel like when I dipped my toes into the lore the Tau seemed the closest to good guys that I could find but I don't know it well
Those are even after my time. From the outside it looked like them starting to step away from "fantasy races in space", but it didn't intrigue me enough to pay attention and they never really became the core of the videogames because space marines everywhere, so...
I'd play the hell out of a Remnant-like Warhammer 40K game. The Remnant blueprint is perfect for a 40K game.
Chasing trends like Souls and/or BR games is a dead end.
Space Marine 2 looks like it has some unique ideas for melee combat, let's hope they don't just abandon them so they can copy trends.
Seems like an 'ok' game and is generally liked by the community but therein lies the problem. Ok isn't good enough anymore and the community interested in a game like this is small and ever shrinking. This wasn't the game to explode and draw people to the genre so it was never going to meet corporate expectations. Shame because I quite like AoS and think it has a ton of potential as an IP
I regularly find games based on WHFB to be really cool. AoS on the other hand never interested me.
I played the demo and got turned off by constantly saying "Orruk" instead of orc and lack of base building.
Are there many still around these days? From the top of my head I only know of Vermintide and Total War: Warhammer.
The latter was so good it is bringing back the Old World from GW!
Yes, I love TWWH exactly for that, hate that the game is split into so many DLCs though.
Oh absolutely.
On the other hand, we'd probably have had to wait way longer for the games if they included every race from the get-go, if we would have gotten the games at all. But the day 1 DLCs? Yeah, those can go die in a fire.
Oh, and since you seem to be interested in the TT site of the Old World as well, are you reading the current article series on their community page for the new game?
There´s a new game?
For the tabletop, yes. They anounced late 2019 that they were developing it, it is set to release at the beginning of next year. So January of February. It is very creatively called "Warhammer: The Old World" an set in Warhammers past and a mix of what they liked best throughout the past editions. Here is the article overview on their community page.
Currently they are doing an article every monday taking a glance on the upcomig rules.
You'll be able to play with your old minis if you still have them. But they anounced earlier in the year that the base size for most minis will change to something bigger. Only thing concrete so far is that apparently every 20mm base will change to a 25mm base. (the basing article it talks a bit about Bretonnian armies before the basing)
Interesting, thank you!
You're welcome!
Eh...I'm not surpised. Age of Sigmar is Warhammer's dumb little brother. It's not a very interesting thing.
Looking at the reviews on Steam, I don't think the setting was anywhere close to the largest problem.
I thought the community had come around on it after some updates. I wouldn't know, I haven't been into TT Games Workshop stuff in ages.
In any case, the core of the tabletop game has nothing to do with whether a game adaptation is good or not.
I wish Frontier would focus on their own IP that's languished for years (Elite) instead of churning out mid games using licensed IP. Just.. make a game that's amazing and focus your efforts on it.
"You won't be able to walk around your ship ~~at launch~~ EVER.
Lol sigmar nuts.
Good. Fuck GW. 🤢🖕🏽
This was not made by GW
It's owned by GW. Get your head on straight.