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Might help also to describe what you think feminism is, since it's one of those terms that is overloaded.

I once had a physical therapist tell me she wasn't a feminist because she thought women couldn't be as physically capable as men when serving as soldiers, and seemed to believe feminism requires treating women exactly like men.

I told her I was a feminist because I believe in equal rights for men and women, an idea she did not seem so opposed to.

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[โ€“] Ougie@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

I believe that men, women and all other genders that people are constructing these days - whether real or fabricated, zero fucks - should be treated equally in the eyes of the law, they should have equal pay, should be given the same opportunities and should be treated with equal respect. If that makes me a feminist, then cool.

I also believe that the reason the term gets a bad rap sometimes is because of the general stage humanity finds itself in. Consider this, for hundreds and hundreds of years men had the upper hand and only very recently did we start this process of equalizing women.

I imagine society like a car going down the road, when you lose control in a turn, the knee-jerk reaction is to steer the other direction and for a brief moment there you're going way over to the other side before eventually correcting/ normalizing your course. Imho this is what happens with every new concept that gets introduced, there's an overreach before normality ensues.

It's even more pronounced with LGBTQ people. They were hidden, non existent in the eyes of society, and now we're at the parade stage. My prediction is that soon there will be no need for it.

[โ€“] bstix@feddit.dk 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I really don't feel the need to identify myself as any sort of -ism.

What matters more to me is how you act. It doesn't matter if someone identifies as a feminist if they don't act like one.

I think I do, but I'm probably not the best to evaluate my own behavior.

Anyway, since we're on the topic, it recently came to my attention that most top charts for media like music, films and online content is absolutely dominated by men. For no particular reason, it's just what people consume. I wonder why. Coming from a place that is seemingly more equal than most of the world, I'm surprised that the people here, even the women, are still consuming more content made by men than by women. So I set out to change my own consumption. Looking through my YouTube subscriptions I found that I myself was watching only content from men, so I started subscribing to more women doing content within my usual interests. I mean, I'm not looking for women doing things because they're women, but rather women doing things that everyone might do, but they just happen to be women. It's difficult. It feels like fighting against the algorithms just to find it, and I gotta say, a lot of the content made by women is still trying to get subscriptions based on the idea that everyone on the internet is a man. Seriously, women. When I'm searching for geeky stuff I'm not going to subscribe to your ass or breasts. Take that shit to OnlyFans or whatever. I actually want to hear or watch the topic from your perspective. And seriously, men.. please behave. It's so fucking cringe to read your lustful comments anytime a smart women dares present her face in any of the serious channels. I definitely understand why women upload less content if that's the feedback they get.

Well, I did manage to find some channels worth subscribing to, and at the moment I'm probably up to a third of my subscriptions being from women. I don't think I can push it much further without having to watch things that I have no interest in or which conflicts with any of my already mentioned points. I'll also have to acknowledge that there are differences in what topics interests men and women enough to post about or consume.

However, finally, I would suggest anyone who ever searches for something to sometimes get the woman to explain it to you instead of choosing the man every time.

[โ€“] npdean 0 points 2 weeks ago

However, finally, I would suggest anyone who ever searches for something to sometimes get the woman to explain it to you instead of choosing the man every time.

Yeah, I am not downgrading my experience for the sake of it.

[โ€“] Allonzee@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

The first wave was right. (equal legal rights)

The second wave had a good point. (reproductive rights and workplace discrimination)

The rest were just further attempted power grabs that don't even make the people they claim to represent happy. They tried to do what well meaning but ultimately misguided anti racism waves did by claiming gender shouldn't even be acknowledged aka "I don't even see the color." Which is it's own kind of bigotry.

Everyone should be allowed to fill the same role, but while a minority might be ecstatic in the corpo grinder, it made society worse for men and women more generally, and I don't see many women who enjoy being forced into the hunter gatherer role by the capitalists and the convenient femininists whose message they coopted to boost productivity by mandating ALL the poors make widgets for them if they want to subsist.

It hasn't been productive to raise women to believe it is essential that they defy gender norms as if it is their mission in life to do so. More than anyone else, modern feminists have culturally demeaned the role of being a wife and mother in society, which is ironic, since they seem dead set on making women fit the mold of the men they see as their oppressor.

Men and women are different, with different strengths and weaknesses and intrinsic desires. With overlap, there are things that make men happier and things that make women happier generally. We should have equality, but we've been trying to shoehorn both genders to be interchangable in any societal role en masse, and it's taken a massive toll on men and women in different ways.

Edit: Nevermind, everything is awesome, we did it!

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[โ€“] LuigiMaoFrance@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm a male vegan anarchist and reject every form of mistreatment based on immutable qualities like species, ethnicity, sex etc. At the same time women in my life have consistently broken my trust, which has left me with some generalized cynical views about them. I also believe that the west is at a point where women often receive preferential treatment in sectors like education and hiring, so advocating for them while men are left behind doesn't make much sense to me. I do not consider myself a feminist.

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[โ€“] deadcatbounce@reddthat.com 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

I'm an egalitarian. I believe women and women are, and should be treated, equal(ly).

The clue is in the name feminist. Feminism is about equality in the same way an advocate of masculinism is an advocate of equality.

[โ€“] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 2 weeks ago

Why do you think feminism as an egalitarian movement is focused on women?

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[โ€“] baconmonsta@piefed.social -1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I believe in balancing quotas and rebuilding social structures to be more inclusive. That's something that takes several generations to bear fruit.

Shaming or bullying anyone for what kind of body or privilege they were born into is where I draw the line.

edit: those who downvoted this are most welcome to reply this comment and explain their point. I'm open to discuss

[โ€“] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org -1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Yes. I think it's about thinking patriarchy is bad. Almost always that implies preferring equality; the manosphere dudes massively overblow the support for matriarchy. I'm honestly not sure if I would include equality in the definition or not, because of how little that distinction matters in practice.

I should also include that I think patriarchy is real (because anything else is flat-Earth tier, look at Afghanistan), and that many remnants of it still exist in the West. Sometimes people who oppose something they call feminism claim that there's not.

[โ€“] gens@programming.dev -1 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I wrote here my honest opinion only to be mocked. Fuck you all, I'm not going to answer this online ever again.

And no, I wasn't sexist.

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[โ€“] furrowsofar@beehaw.org -2 points 2 weeks ago

Equal rights and opportunity sure.

Feminism to the extent that it is intrinisically sexist just no.

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