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And then there's Ahti (startrek.website)
submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by Stamets@startrek.website to c/tumblr@lemmy.world
 

Yo, Control Ultimate Edition is currently on sale on Steam for $10.

Just saying.

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[–] otter@lemmy.ca 71 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The first example that comes to mind

[–] Lionel@endlesstalk.org 4 points 11 months ago

This is the only funny example the rest are overdone

[–] pomodoro_longbreak@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The first one that comes to my mind is James Lee's Tar Boy

a robot janitor drawn in a paper cutout flash animation style, enjoying music while they are brushing the floor

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 45 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I love the idea that the mythological hero Ahti Saarelainen one day retires from seafaring adventure and spends his days cleaning up in an eldritch location.

[–] Stamets@startrek.website 21 points 11 months ago (13 children)

Who knows. Maybe he became Eldritch himself? Ahti (at least in Control) is really not explored much. A great character but shrouded in constant shadow and mystery. So it very well might be. Who the fuck knows. When he talks about wanting to go on vacation he does talk about a beach and how he likes the sounds of the sea...

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I specifically want Remedy to not expose his past. Mystery is what keeps the lore interesting. On a tangential note, this is why I will never forgive Chris fucking Chibnall for retconning The Doctor's origins in Doctor Who's later seasons.

[–] Stamets@startrek.website 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don't care about retconning as long as its done well. Chibnall proceeded to go to Doctor Who and make a mess and a mockery of everything, turning the Doctor into a joke as well as their past, squandering the only female Doctor we've had and giving her endlessly shit material for her to waste her talent on.

Fuck him.

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Fuck the people who hired him. Chibnall was a known quantity.

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[–] chandz05@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Oh wow I love Control and had no idea about this mythology. Didn't even think to look more into him. Just figured he was the wise old janitor that knew more and was more important than he let on

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Unfortunately much of Finnish mythology comes from a single source, the Kalevala by Elias Lönnrot, which was written long after christian missionaries polluted the folklore. It's an interesting mythology, and very distinct from the surrounding Germanic faiths.

[–] hessianerd@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

The Canine Kalevela is a fun way to read it to kids. Really fun illustrations.

[–] Laticauda@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

My headcanon is that he's the owner bound to the Oldest House.

[–] p1mrx@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I wonder if the Astral Plane charges property tax?

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] Bonehead@kbin.social 25 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Dammit...I got 6 clicks in before I caught myself. Not today, TV Tropes, I got shit to do...

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I apologize. I realize now I steered us all into a mental black hole.

[–] Bonehead@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago

Sometimes, the mental black hole calls to us. And sometimes, I let the void embrace me. But right before I have to leave for work...that takes discipline and will power.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

WARNING: TV TROPES LINK DETECTED

Before clicking, remember that you have responsibilities and people who love you.

[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] lud@lemm.ee 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ah yes, the sidetracking website.

[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] SgtAStrawberry@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

I wish, but the site is always throwing some hissy fits and lag at me.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago

I'm a school bus driver and it's hilarious how kids think I can't hear anything when I actually hear everything that goes on in the bus. Same as the janitor though, I just don't want to get involved with that shit and have to do any paperwork.

Hell, one time some of the kids were vaping on my bus and I ignored it.

[–] arockinyourshoe@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)
[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Stamets@startrek.website 39 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

Ahti is a character introduced in the video game Control and with appearances elsewhere. He's a extremely mysterious figure. Very little is known about him beyond the fact that is a janitor for the Oldest House, headquarters of the Federal Bureau of Control.

Highly recommend Control. Truly amazing game with incredible lore, a mindfuck of a story, and some stunningly beautiful/terrifying atmosphere.

Also for those who are considering Alan Wake 2.... Play Control first. Trust me. Especially the Control AWE DLC.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I was wondering because Ahti is a Finnish name. But Control is made by Remedy so that checks out.

[–] Stamets@startrek.website 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Ahti is also a Finnish character. He repeatedly speaks Finnish throughout the game. His janitor carts also all have little radios that play the same song, the 'Sankarin Tango'. A song performed by the model/voice actor for Ahti, performed entirely in Finnish. Great song actually. You'll even catch the character singing along to the music occasionally.

[–] DrPop@lemmy.one 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That scene when you get the tape player was too good. I made a save just for that part because of how fun it was. And yes the DLC goes into the incidents in the first game.

[–] Stamets@startrek.website 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

TAKE.

CONTROL.

Proceed to headbang like a motherfucker.

[–] chandz05@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

God damn I love that song and the entire ashtray maze section

[–] Stamets@startrek.website 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Same here. It's on my spotify for a reason. As well as a few other songs from that game and from AW2.

[–] Kajibits@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I cant stop listening to Herald of Darkness. I was so stoked when they played it at the Game Awards.

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[–] Kovukono@pawb.social 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I've got a question. I absolutely hated Alan Wake when it came out. I truly don't understand why anyone would have anything above mediocre to say about it. I got the chance to play the remastered version recently and still hate that game.

The positive press Remedy got for that game was the reason I still haven't played Quantum Break, and why I skipped Control until it was given away for free. Given the rave reviews for Alan Wake, I didn't trust any of it. I'm glad I got to play Control however, because it deserves every single bit of praise it got. It's an amazing game.

So, given that I felt Alan Wake suffered from a terrible storyline, mediocre acting, and bland, boring gameplay that was downright frustrating, but absolutely adored everything about Control, even the AWE DLC, would you recommend Alan Wake 2?

[–] Laticauda@lemmy.ca 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

It's hard to say if you hated the first game so much because the gameplay is definitely based around the original game, but it's much smoother and more fluid, you're given a lot more tools to use, there are a lot more varied gameplay mechanics, and a lot more varied enemy types and environments and level design and stuff (it's not all just forest, forest, and more forest). It feels way less clunky and awkward and like you're constantly struggling against the character and the gameplay, and a lot more intuitive and engaging in comparison.

The story itself takes a lot of style and plot beats from Control and references Control a lot. Personally I liked the first Alan Wake game, largely for its atmosphere, but I can definitely see it's flaws and why some people wouldn't like it, but I felt the second game improved on every aspect by a lot and gave me a lot more Control vibes than the first one did. I actually started replaying Control right after finishing Alan Wake 2 because it gave me so much Nostalgia for Control lol, though at the same time it doesn't feel like it's just copying or just rehashing Control either. The gameplay itself is not like Control though, not even remotely, which makes sense because they're very different games and as much as I LOVE the Control gameplay it wouldn't have made sense to use it for Alan Wake 2. It's definitely based on the original Alan Wake style gameplay on a basic level, but done much much better in my opinion. Some people have compared it a bit to games like The Last of Us 1 and 2 which seems like a reasonable comparison from what I remember of those games. I personally also liked the story and characters and felt that was pretty well done as well, certainly better than the first game imo.

That's the best I can offer you in terms of info and opinion on the game, so it's up to you whether you think it's worth trying out.

[–] Kovukono@pawb.social 3 points 11 months ago

Thanks! I'll probably be waiting until it goes on sale, but at least now I won't be intentionally avoiding it.

[–] GortexGary@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

I've literally seen a street sweeping, running during 80+ mph bursts with trees being blown down... My favorite memory.

[–] Thteven@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Lol, Archspire has this trope at the end of their music videos.

https://youtu.be/MlnGYcMpxgU

https://youtu.be/_VOUyfPjxOk

[–] hessianerd@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

Archspire is badass. Never seen one of their music videos before. Pretty good.

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