wefwef.app is an Apollo style client for Lemmy. It’s amazing. It has made moving to Lemmy so much easier. It’s almost a perfect match to the ui of apollo.
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It even has a tool to export your subreddits from Apollo into it.
How do I do that now that Apollo doesn’t have settings?
Well. Shit.
Yeah WefWef is awesome! Made me feel at home after losing Apollo. Highly recommend. Github is at https://github.com/aeharding/wefwef.
The guys over at Sync are working on a Lemmy app too. It's only for Android, though, I believe.
*The guy. It's just one dude! Just wanted to highlight that because it's the best designed app I've ever used, and it has one single dev.
He doesn't really advertise it so I'm just going to mention I found out recently he has a patreon for anyone else who's been a long time fan and didn't know.
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That's going to be an instant buy for me when it's released. I had sync for like 8 years and it would be awesome to get it back.
For the apollo lovers that aren't committed enough to install an app yet I'd really recommend trying wefwef.app (potentially to be renamed voyager)
I'm excited about Sync for Lemmy. The dev says about 6 weeks.
This is amazing actually.
Semi tech illiterate and don't fully understand what each instance means and how it works. Sync will be nice to try
Each instance is basically it's own version of reddit.
Each community is a subreddit.
Each instance can have duplicate subreddits with its own rules and moderators, so you can sub to one or the other, or both. I.e. lemmy.ca can have an aww community and Lemmy.world can have an aww community, but even if your home instance is Lemmy.ml you can comment, subscribe, and post to both version of the aww instance.
Is there a way to show all communities for that topic at the same time? Say when someone posts to any aww community it comes up alongside all other posts in different instances? I think this is where my disconnect is, if a client can see all of them anyway, why not have them collapse down on one another client side so you can see all of what's being posted and not just a slice?
It's a brilliant idea and it would help a lot communities to be found.
That's actually a great idea. Maybe have a "auto subscribe to similar communities" box when subscribing.
Yeah, I was in a mood when they shut off sync right in the middle of my technobable rant on r/startrek so the first thing I did here was try to find the Star Trek community and found 12 of them but not much discussion going on, eventually found one post but it made me realize how compartmentalized this very open client is. But if a user can see all other communities outside the instance why not just dump everything into one stream like a subreddit while hosting the discussions back to the posters instance. It's still decentralized, but I feel as if it would be a way to cut down on reposts. Say someone on aww @what.eve.rthefuck sees a cute picture and reposts it 12 times to other aww@boobook.ittyshit (among others) it would be quite obvious who is spamming repost content within the same community. I just feel like conversations here could be much more available than they currently are
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A request for this feature has been made to the Lemmy Devs on GitHub a few weeks ago
Thank you for writing this up.
Is there a list of all communities or any reason that one instance is better than another?
Here is a list and search for all Lemmy commhnities, even ones your home instance is defederated from.
As for one instance being better than another, it depends on what you value. Size, sign-up procedures, moderation, and what instancea they're federated with are all factors. As an example, Beehaw.org is a larger instance with some popular communities, but they have a strict sign-up process and defederate from a lot of instances. This gives their users a more curated experience, but some people don't like having someone else controlling what they can and can't see
Lemmyverse.net
Pick an instance that aligns with your values from here. You can still subscribe and interact with communities made elsewhere.
Think of it like email.
An account on gmail can still talk to a Yahoo account. Now just apply that to users and communities on lemmy.
I'm on iusearchlinux.fyi but can still engage with communities and users on lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works
So, but, forgive my ignorance, but why? Is it a hosting/capacity issue? Why multiple instances with different addresses?
I couldn't sign up on lemmy.world or lemmy.ml (I think) but registered on redd.that. What does that mean for me?
Not much really, just that your admins are the admins of redd.that. They can block other instances and ban users if they choose to. You have a choice of different instances. Some will block porn, some will ban users who hold certain political views. But you have the choice at least of which to join.
As to why: it means nobody owns Lemmy. Nobody can ever just ruin the whole place like Spez did Reddit. That's what we mean by "decentralized".
Also worth noting that you can sign up to multiple instances too. You aren't beholden to your admins in the same way that you are over a barrel at other social media websites with a single account. Your browser and all of the apps support multiple accounts out of the box.
It's honestly superior once you are used to it. I'm looking forward to the day we have federated ID to go along with it too without having to spin up a whole instance yourself.
This whole thing takes me right back to wild west internet days, or the first steps for Blockchain.
It's exciting to see what the community decides is best, and I'm looking forward to seeing if this takes off or at least becomes as natural to me (and others) as R*ddit was.
A lot of things I need to learn and un-learn.
Thanks for your insight - small comments like this are really helping me get my bearings here. 💚
It is a lot like the origin of the www where much of the best content were personal web sites. The technology got so complex that running your own website wasn't very practical for most people anymore and so they moved to platforms like Facebook, Google, Twitter, etc. I think we are at a point where enough people are starting to realize that having all content controlled by a for-profit company ends up being very bad for users and the fediverse is about building tools that allow individuals and communities to take back control of their own content.
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Apps also make it great. Lift off for example let's me sign in to both of my accounts and use them seemlessly. Like if a beehaw community appears in my feed I can comment from my acct there without switching anything.
First of all, it has one big difference: What types of communities you see when you browse the "Local" communities (on most apps or web UIs it's gonna be a setting at the top). "Local" shows you threads posted in communities that are on your instance; "All" shows you the whole network, similar to /r/all on reddit; and "Subscribed" shows you only the communities you're interested in, similar to the main page on reddit. It makes sense to switch this setting to All for the time being, and to see what's going on everywhere else and which communities develop; to Local when you get confused, e.g. with lots of posts in languages you don't speak or lots of duplicate posts; and to Subscribed once things have settled down and once you have found your communities that you're interested in (and other stuff that you're not interested in becomes more and more on the All feed).
There's some eceptions when the "linked instances" structure does make a difference:
- during heavy development (like in the early stages right now), federation might break here and there (for example right now between some servers using on older version of the Lemmy backend and those that already updated). also, there's probably gonna be multiple similar communities on various instances (nearly every instance has a "main" community and a "Lemmy discussion/reddit bashing" community). this will all settle down with time, federation in general will be more stable, and "main" communities will develop, with smaller alternative ones spread around that can take over if the main one is taken offline.
- when instances decide to "defederate" from each other. this is a conscious decision by the admins (standard setting is to share everything with everybody else, but specific instances can be added to a blocklist). this means their content doesn't show up on your instance, and users from those instances can't interact with one another anymore. this happens at the moment with lots of NSFW instances and the more tame ones, but once moderation tools are improved, it will settle as well.
Quick tips: Don't be too stressed about "missing" content on other instances, right now it's still early days and a bit chaotic. And do consider making multiple accounts on other instances, and checking out what's different. the apps that are being developed right now make switching between multiple accounts easy, and one day will hopefully bring bookmarks and comments across multiple accounts together as well. Shop around for different instances and apps and see what's out there,, read people's recommendations, try and find instance and community lists. And in general, don't see your current account as the only way you'll interact with the Lemmy network (just as alt accounts were a thing on Reddit), and don't expect the network to serve you everything on a golden platter, you'll have to do some hunting around for the cool things, a bit like in the internet days before Web 2.0 happened – but that's half the fun!
It's spez-proof
If I don't like how my instance is run I can jump ship to another, or even make my own, and still interact with the same communities.
If you're familiar with IRC it works almost exactly like that but via a website. Your browser is your client and you can connect to and sign up accounts on any server. Channels can be seen and interacted with across instances though but they are still seperate entities, which is the only difference.
Although it seems like there would be multiple communities and fragmentation what usually ends up happening is that your server fedeates other popular subs though others interacting them and they still gain traction and get popular.
Connect is working perfectly well for me, but I feel such loyalty towards Sync after using it for so many years. I can't wait to use it again.
Can't wait! I'm currently using Jerboa and it's pretty good so far, but I'm definitely trying Sync once it's out
hello! author here. I'm late to this party but, just for good order:
This script is good for desktop, but not great for mobile. If your primary interaction is on a mobile device, probably check the comments for (much) better alternatives.
That's awesome. Wefwef is a remarkably great mobile app, but I've been wanting a RES equivalent for desktop!
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Thanks for posting this. I never realized there was this level of personal customization capable with Lemmy.
It's a lot easier when the site doesn't obfuscate the code.
Depends on the theme. Some of the Lemmy themes do silly stuff like making the comment nesting colored borders with inline CSS marked "!important" so it's impossible to change without invasive methods. It should be enough to use a CSS extension to adjust the theme and not resort to one that runs custom JavaScript.
Hi I’m new here. Wefwef. Glad I figured this out, I think?
A person on my instance made a pretty slick reddit-like theme, as well, called rediggit.
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This is amazing, thanks for posting, I feel at home now.
OMG Yes this is awesome!
God Bless whoever made that. I'm too entrenched in that old.reddit style to let go just yet.
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