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Is there any hope? Or is it inevitable that big corporations will take over what started as a way to escape big corporate platforms and to focus on real communities and discussions and replace it with a toxic shithole pumped full of ads?

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[–] mochi@lemdit.com 12 points 1 year ago

You can't keep them out, but you can choose not to Federate with them. They can't take over. That's the point of having independent federated servers.

[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We could collectively vote to defederate them.

[–] fbievan@fedia.io 0 points 1 year ago

that is already being done

[–] fidodo@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How does defederation work? Is it global or is it in a per instance basis?

[–] Ado@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] mochi@lemdit.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But just as a side note, a user can block an entire instance as well, at least on Mastodon. I haven't checked for that functionality on Lemmy. That's not defederation, but it prevents you from seeing things you don't want to at the user level.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I haven’t found it but I’d love to see it if I can. As world is struggling I want to use an alt but most alternatives haven’t defederated exploding heads

[–] mochi@lemdit.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What happened with exploding heads?

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They’re extremely comfortable with homophobia and transphobia. When I was seeing if I could ban them for example they were talking about considering “cis” and “cisgender” a slur that’s bannable, but they don’t consider a particular word starting with an f that bad.

[–] mochi@lemdit.com 2 points 1 year ago

Thank you for the explanation.

[–] DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Any instance can choose what other instances it interacts with.

[–] fidodo@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So it would need to be a movement across instances, not just a single action, but given the principles of the user base here and why we're here I think that movement would be very successful.

[–] ShittyKopper@lemmy.w.on-t.work 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] riceball@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s giving 2000s hello kitty fan site

[–] tristar@lemmyfly.org 1 points 1 year ago

Yes. I love it so much.

[–] sean@murray.social 1 points 1 year ago

You sign up on (or create) an instance that defederates from them.

[–] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

They have the right to use the open protocol, just as anybody else to build their own instance. Trying to keep Facebook out only through banning of known instances/IP addresses is a losing battle of whack-a-mole.

If you really want to stop them from EEE, make a pact to refuse to federate with any instance software stack without the AGPL-3.0 license instead, no Apache, no MIT, not even regular GPL, so they simply can't do the "Extend" bit at all.

[–] Chozo@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd have to imagine that Meta would be locked within their own little bubble. I find it hard to believe that many of the current instances out there wouldn't immediately opt to defederate from Meta out of principle. I don't think it'd be difficult to find a community that's blocked all interaction with Meta.

[–] 1chemistdown@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Meta plans to fedi with activitypub so I doubt that they’re trying to be a closed island. They are probably trying to come into this space to disrupt and destroy. All of fedi needs to cut them out right away.

[–] Detry@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] redditcunts@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Jesus Christ 🤦‍♂️

The entire point of federation is you can't.

Go post your uneducated meta circle jerk hate back on Reddit.

[–] Thafirton@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago

Don't be a dick. Seriously, dude posted in Not Stupid Questions and you immediately tell him how stupid his question is.