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[–] DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml 58 points 1 year ago (11 children)

I used to be an enlightened 'the truth is in the middle' centrist until I realized that the real world requires having actual ideals

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[–] roux@lemmygrad.ml 40 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I had a former co-worker pull this "compromise" card when I was talking about how maybe minimum wages should be a living wage. He said "both sides should just come to a middle ground". Like bruh, you know that "compromise" would be literally not a living wage, right? You get that, right?

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

The right has dragged the discussion so far right that we're arguing for the LEAST BASIC necessities and have to compromise away from them.

We're not arguing, like we should, should new mothers get 1 year maternity leave or 1.5 years?

No... We're arguing should they get ANY leave, or nothing???

It's like this for a million issues, that affect 99% of us, but unfortunately 50% of our population is so stupid and lacks empathy that they are arguing against their own interest.

Billionaires should be fighting 99% of us, instead they have 50 % of the morons fighting the other 50 %.

[–] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There's already a middle ground, it's the federal minimum wage (I assume US) that hasn't moved for 20+ years

like the right doesn't want there to be a minimum wage. They have a whole body of theory for why the minimum wage should be abolished. They want there to be 0 minimum wage.

[–] Barabas@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is a ridiculous amount of examples of abortion centrists who ultimately argue that abortion should be a legal compromise while saying that they don't support either side. They're just chronically unable to take any stand.

[–] roux@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Legit all the fucking conservative women I knew got all upset when RvW was overturned and I was like "how the fuck do you not understand you voted for this very fucking thing?"

[–] Dbumba@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Close, a centrist is converservative but ashamed

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[–] Farmer_Heck@lemmygrad.ml 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Uncritical support to comrade Cyber Ghost, for making posts that draw out the liberals so we can ban them.

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[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Compromise is overrated in the political arena.

Honey where are we going to eat tonight? Compromise away!

Should women have bodily autonomy? There is no compromise to be had here.

Politics is inherently a battle of ideas, it is supposed to be conflict where better ideas win, and compromise almost never works.

In most cases it just waters down a good idea, it rarely improves a shitty one.

Compromise has historically been used by the right to retard progress, from slavery, to women's rights to vote, to civil rights, we've always had to compromise and then eventually we've gotten rid of the compromise and done the correct thing, we should have done in the first place.

[–] knfrmity@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 year ago

Consensus >>> Compromise

With the necessary means of education of course.

[–] EuthanatosMurderhobo@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You know what's fucked? We talk here sometimes about how many people that say they don't like socialism are just very confused. Well, centrists made baby's first step to understanding diamat. They just refuse to graduate and get that synthesis doesn't look like people holding everyone's livelihoods hostage and their victims coming to an agreement.

[–] Jonathan12345@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 1 year ago

Great job, centrists! You really showed those extremes who's unbiased and completely not racist!

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago

They want the status quo to go unchallenged as a "centrist" position. That's just conservatism with more cowardice.

[–] blakeus12@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hey, this video converted me from a "centrist" to a leftist.

[–] American_Communist22@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

aight love that you aint a centrist but

[–] blakeus12@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

what does the pickaxe thing mean

[–] Jonathan12345@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ice pick, the murder weapon used to kill trotsky (stupid ultra he deserved it lmao)

[–] blakeus12@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

oh, ok. why did he deserve it, am i missing something? super new to leftism so forgive me if i am but I thought Trotsky was instrumental in defeating the white army?

[–] Jonathan12345@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 year ago (5 children)

It's ok, we all gotta start somewhere!

Basically he was being a jackass and wanted to instantly achieve full communism even though the USSR had like no industry at the time. He escaped to Mexico later and was assassinated. Also iirc he didn't have that big of a role in the revolution, but I could be wrong.

[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He had quite a large role in the revolution

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[–] MrFagtron9000@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're either with us or against us. - Dubya

There is no "center" position on human rights. Unless you want to give people half rights?

[–] Aru@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's a british word for cigarette, i swear

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