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A two-front biological and cyber attack could lead to a U.S. defeat before we know what hit us.

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[–] FrostBolt@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Russia will release half-monkey, half-man hybrid shock troops; they'll be dancing in the aisles of Walmart by next month

[–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

They already tried shock troops with Fetal Alcohol Syndrome.

[–] lowdownfool@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Ah yes, viruses that are impossible to contain to a specific target. Sure, I buy that. /s

[–] Candelestine@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Missing the bigger point, as usual. If dna editing continues to come down in cost as our techniques refine, and its already something random douchebags can do in their garages, what makes anyone think a government needs to be the one responsible for fucking around and accidentally making a superplague?

[–] readbeanicecream@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@Candelestine kurzgesagt posted a pretty good video discussing this, too. Video

[–] sik0fewl@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Ya, that video was a little bit terrifying.

[–] GeenVliegtuig@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Wasn't this all predicted by The X-Files?

[–] 0xtero@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I get the biological vector - it's scary. But a cyber attack? Meh.

[–] Itty53@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

A coordinated and effective cyber attack could cripple infrastructure, it's actually a thing to be concerned about. There's a reason we banned certain Chinese chip manufacturers products from being used within government hardware. If you think there's not an actual threat you're not paying attention.

[–] 0xtero@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

A coordinated and effective cyber attack could cripple infrastructure

Could. But in reality wouldn't.
Russia has been at open, kinetic war with Ukraine for over a year now. Before that they've been the aggressors since 2014 Crimea annexation. Russia is one of the worlds leading "cyber powers". Cyber has done very, very little damage in Ukraine.

Sure, there is risk. But it's not "extinction level risk" like a biological vector. There's never been a cyber attack that has closed the global economy for 2+ years. Cyber attacks just don't scale that way. But viruses like COVID do. We know.

[–] EvilMonkeySlayer@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

The US is well known to use this as a vector for attacks. Intercept network hardware in delivery, insert hardware backdoors and then have delivered as if nothing happened.

So, only fair they're concerned others might do it.

[–] emptyother@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

This is just my opinion, NOT in any way facts:

Thing is we've all been attacked and are actively defending against cyber attacks already, all over the internet-connected globe. We've fought bot nets. We are prepared. We've taken precautions. Our defenses has been battle-tested. (Though I am not sure we are prepared enough against these new pattern-finding AIs). And we know to keep essential services offline.

Biological we haven't, we've mostly trusted our immune system, which is made for smaller population densities. And we have no way to modify our defenses other than vaccines. If any smart biohacker finds a vulnerability, our only plan is what we did when covid started. And a biological attack combined with a misinformation campaign could cripple any country easier than any cyber attack.

[–] Bipta@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cyber is way more likely that biological...

[–] 0xtero@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Also way less likely to cause trouble on the scale that biological warfare is.

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