Fediverse

It’s for karma. Nothing more.

Purely text based content is way easier on the servers. If all Lemmy users uploaded videos and high res images all the time, the servers could not keep up, right?

• consider that they use hardware that is run on donation (or their own) money

I see Zuckerberg trying to capture the Fediverse as a good thing, but only because it will test how resilient it is, and expose any weak spots the community can fix.

Bad actors are inevitable in a federated network, and they're supposed to become increasingly ostracized if they keep at it. Let's see how resilient the Fediverse is against a thirsty bad actor with a deep wallet.

I feel META getting into the Fediverse platform is a great idea, brings it to the masses more easily. We just need to make sure META doesn't take control of it as everyone should be able to use the platform they wish to use.

Personally, I am fresh enough to all this that I feel it's prudent to kind of sit back on the discussion, and am leaning toward the "defederate" option.

However - I deleted my Facebook years ago, and never had Instagram or Twitter. It would be nice to interact with my own family and friends who do most of their online presence in places like that. So I kinda get it. I'm not after the mass-produced content but it would be cool to hear from people I know again that I've lost touch with because I'm stubborn about FB.

Just spitballing - and please consider that I haven't been at Lemmy long enough to know if this is a terrible idea - but what about an instance that hasn't blocked Facebook and other big corpos, but doesn't raise their content by default? Like what if you have to actively connect with people on them? Seems like a decent middle ground, until Facebook decides to break it anyway.

I get why some want it. I just wish they'd stop. They want ease of access to all the things they like. I hate those other platforms and have no accounts on them and I don't want to see them here and prefer the community driven content over yet another algorithm pushing garbage I hate. They always try to spin their algorithms as finding content you want and tailoring it to you. But it's never the case. They take the vile shit that they support and push that, mingling it with a few crumbs of real content. And eventually the crumbs disappear too. I don't want any of that corporate nonsense around. I really like a good large community without that influence.

I would guess it’s because this is supposed to be an open standard. Anyone should be allowed to use it.

Imagine if gmail users could only email other gmail users. If email servers didn’t all talk to each other. This is similar.

If Threads uses ActivityPub then it should be available.

But I completely get the Embrace, Extend, Extinguish fear.

Edit: I guess thread is more suited to mastodon, not Lemmy, but same argument

It’s not really the content quality or mass usage that bothers me. The Fediverse is built on ideals of open source, privacy, decentralization, controlling your own experience and your own data, etc… All these things are incompatible with Meta and other mega corporations. In fact they are a direct threat to corporate greed. Meta is not a friend of the Fediverse and its premise, and their meddling here can only erode those ideals. Regardless of content, number of users, and so on, I hope the devs, at least, can stay the course and not cave to corporate pressure, and that all the Twitter/Reddit refugees can remember why they ultimately left those platforms in the first place.

What will stop the bots? Were literally on a platform because the other one cut off moderation bots…

I agree thoroughly. The main reason me, you, and the majority of people moved here was to catch a break from the barrage of monotonic, brain-rotting content on mainstream platforms.