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[–] IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social 164 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I never get why people think that a online game should be a free speech platform. It’s no different than any irl sports match. Go tell a ref to kill themselves and you’d be booted off the pitch.

[–] euphoric_cat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 61 points 9 months ago

they know they're less likely to face repercussions online, unfortunately

[–] flicker@lemmy.world 49 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Not a lot of them are familiar with irl sports. Which I think helps explain why the ones who are toxic also tend to be the worst.

Since irl sports teaches you that teamwork, supporting each other, and getting your head in the game and focusing on playing it more than being a dick to a teammate are strategies for success.

[–] pleb_maximus@feddit.de 18 points 9 months ago

Oh, there are more than enough football fans who whine about taunting or unsportsmanlike conduct penalties. Not only when the refs call is bullshit, but on principle. Sadly, there are more than enough morons around.

[–] flicker@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

Oh, and the unbelievable thrill of making an unbelievable comeback. Which is waaaay more satisfying than tilting a teammate into quitting.

[–] FirstMajesticComet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Less accountability online than in real life. In real life they're the biggest pussies out there and probably wouldn't even mildly protest, let alone attack or threaten to attack someone. They are more confident online because the stakes are lower.

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 108 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I ran a game server with ~100k registered players and 99% of ban appeals I saw were blatant cheaters claiming that they did nothing wrong. It’s wild.

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 44 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I run two (very) small servers for BeamNG, and I try to keep greifers at bay and provide a welcoming experience for everyone, stay active and informed, etc. A few thousand players have connected in the last 14 months, and I've only had to deal with a few people, which is nice, though I'm on sporadically so I have a couple admins and a report system via discord.

When you connect, you get a motd that is just the rules of the server and the special zombie mode instructions, for those that want to play that. It lists in no uncertain terms what bullshit won't fly, where to get help, where players can self-police the server (vote kicks), and even my username at the bottom, as I want to be available for all. We use a mod that controls abilities for players, and different tiers get different color nametags in the UI that everyone sees; a random player is blue, mods are yellow, admins are orange, I (the owner) am red. The server also lists off a 'be nice, and report issue' as well as the discord link in chat every 30 minutes, all in addition to a summarized version being in the server description. I cannot make it any more obvious that we don't like jackasses.

There were 4 players on late last night and so I decided to hop on and see what they are up to. I spawned in and drove over as they were all at one location, and said "hi hi :)" in chat. Someone responded with "fuck you n*****". Son, are you actually fucking braindead? That's a rhetorical question ofc; so after some consideration, they got a 14 day ban.

I'm still too nice, but almost all other servers are unmoderated, uncontrolled wild-west situations, so I don't come down hard unless they don't take the hint the first time, or if they question or disregard my authority - perma banning one such player a few months ago as they tried to sound like a badass keyboard warrior in front of others, was a smackdown I thorally enjoyed. I also say in the rules that appeals aren't guaranteed here, the mod/admin/me gets final say and it stops there.

Makes me question the reading comprehension of some players.

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 28 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Lots of people don't tend to read things like MOTD or server messages. It all just comes in as a distraction to click through to get to the game.

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

They tried to get on today (yesterday technically now), three times, along with a player who was present when this occurred (that I did not ban, they said nothing). I wonder if they connected the dots as to why they was immediately kicked after connecting every time.

I have seen literally no other servers running motd - the mod to do it is horribly broken, and I took the time to fix it for my servers - so you'd think a box with white-on-black text and an orange button would cause a second or two of pause. Maybe in a couple weeks they will find the time to read.

[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Instant permanent ban from me for that. I would salt the fucking earth where that seed grew. I'd go through logs to see if they had friends.

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I should have just did a permaban when looking at it objectively, but I'm trying to balance being inviting and lenient with being safe and welcoming, so I give most players a second chance after X among of time. I like having the ban hammer, but I would rather not use it. A deterrent, really. If the one temp ban scares the four into not being little shits, I've done my task.

As time has gone on, my temp bans have gotten longer - first was, what, 48h? Then a couple for 7d. 14d is the longest (temp) ban I've handed out.

[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 months ago

Leniency is good, and speaks well of you. I tend toward a zero tolerance policy on sone things - there are other servers, the lesson can be taken with them and applied elsewhere.

But if you're willing to put in the time to teach, then that is good.

[–] MountainTurkey@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 9 months ago

Based admin

[–] pleb_maximus@feddit.de 80 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The WOKE want to force their WOKE AGENDA on you or they'll ban you, claiming you broke their WOKE terms of service. Don't let the WOKE win!!11
WOKE WOKE WOKE WOKE

[–] 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 9 months ago (2 children)

It's like dog's barking. WOKE.

[–] pleb_maximus@feddit.de 16 points 9 months ago

Haha, it is!
WOKE WOKE WOKE

Sung (or snarled) by DMX.

[–] hunter2@sh.itjust.works 29 points 9 months ago

That's how the deep state gets you

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 27 points 9 months ago

I GOT B& FOR HAVE OPINION!

[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 15 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

What's wrong with telling people "keep your smile"?

[–] 1024_Kibibytes@lemm.ee 8 points 9 months ago

I honestly thought it was just an unusual spelling of kiss kiss until I read some of the other comments. I couldn't figure out why a server wanted to keep people from saying kiss kiss.

[–] Kowowow@lemmy.ca 15 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

I still hate how they try to use mind games try and get people to be less toxic, either ban them out let them be

[–] euphoric_cat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 27 points 9 months ago (3 children)
[–] Jknaraa@lemmy.ml 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

RIOT and LoL is one of the worst I've seen for this, which is ironically probably contributing to the problem as it chases decent people away while toxic PoS feel right at home since it's tailored for them specifically. You can get an excessively toxic player on your team who is actively working as hard as he can to make you lose, but he knows how to game the system and avoid their filters, but if you tell him to fuck off now you're stuck in their secret "toxic queue" and you just get worse and worse players on your team.

[–] drivepiler@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

Banned players don't buy skins

[–] regdog@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

I am not going to jump in and defend a company, but Riot has done a LOT to combat toxicity in League of Legends. There is a ton of blog posts about all the different approaches they tried to make people behave less like assholes. Turns out that humans are complicated beeings.

[–] figjam@midwest.social 7 points 9 months ago

Ban out lottery bee. What part was unclear?

[–] Kowowow@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 months ago

Ya my autocorrect is a force to be reckoned with

[–] Jknaraa@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago

Especially when they get it wrong constantly.

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)
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[–] Commiunism@lemmy.wtf 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The secret to not getting banned for toxicity online is to hate yourself more than your opponents or team

[–] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure that's the reason most of these people are toxic in the first place. Projected self hatred and insecurity. Gotta learn to focus that self hate into a better mental illness.

[–] ProgrammingSocks@pawb.social 2 points 9 months ago

Fr, I just channel my self hate into practicing rhythm games instead. Makes me way less mad and I have a cool skill to show off in the end

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