About 40% of linux users in the Steam survey use a Steam Deck, so this is not surprising at all.
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I hope they increase their market share even more, they have been great with open source.
Is there anything that makes AMD CPU’s the preferred choice over Intel CPU’s, when running Linux? I was of the understanding that compatibility was quite smoothed out at this point at the CPU/motherboard level and that there wouldn’t be any particular preference in that respect.
I myself have had both Intel CPU’s back in the Sandy Bridge days and then AMD CPU’s since Zen - both worked equally well for Linux in my experience.
I think the Ryzen CPU just gives more bang for the buck, as well considering purchase price as energy consumption. That's not Linux related, but I think Linux users generally tend to care less about "market leader", sometimes even as far as consciously supporting the underdog.
as another comment said, it’s probably the steam deck contributing to the amd numbers. i don’t think intel is any worse compared to amd on the cpu side of things.
Intel's Linux support has always been pretty good. IIRC they even do open source video drivers, it's just that nobody cared about drivers for their IGPs and they didn't have real video cards until recently.
Right, good to have that confirmed by others 👍
I am generally supportive of the “underdog”, so at least for now I am choosing AMD parts (disclaimer: subject to change - or at least continuous reconsideration)
I can't speak for anyone but myself but I recently built a new PC for myself with an AMD Ryzen 7950X. When I was doing research I looked at loads of benchmarks and prices of both AMD and Intel chips and ultimately chose AMD because it offered the best value. Especially when you factor in the power costs over time (eco mode is very impressive and yes, I do run with eco mode enabled).
I'd imagine most folks who build their own PCs go through the same sort of obsessive process, haha.
There's no major issues with either AMD or Intel CPUs on Linux these days so that's not really a factor. I did go the extra mile though to double check that the 2.5GB Ethernet and Wifi chips in the motherboard I chose had excellent Linux support. I also made sure that updating the motherboard BIOS didn't require Windows-only software (turned down one motherboard because of reports of Linux users having bad experiences there).
I like the eco option too! Zen CPUs are quite effective at slightly lower clocks than what gives the utmost of performance, which is neat when an energy crisis hits. Is that why you bought a 7950X, and then chose to make use of the eco option? So that you at a later point could turn up the performance (given an acceptable trade off with energy at that time)?
I’d also guess a lot of people like that somewhat obsessive but exciting feeling when researching new gear (be it hardware or otherwise)! Choosing the right stuff for you - with options and capabilities - is a fun exercise in optimisation. At least that’s how I think of it.
Yeah i get that about support and ability to update firmware; and it’s actually what I was interested in learning when I asked with regards to the Intel/AMD debacle. But it’s more regarding the other components in the setup that would affect the experience, right? Do you run a Linux distribution daily, or was it simply required that it should be able to someday?
I myself have used Ubuntu for years, and finally got my better half to let me install it (though it was Kubuntu for both of us at that time). It actually worked quite well, until we got to gaming Hogwarts Legacy… that didn’t quite agree with our setups. On one (5600X+6950) it was sadly only fixed when I switched it to Windows. The other one was also switched to Windows (😓) but it didn’t fix the problem - after a lot of tries and increasing frustration, I tried turning off SMT. And it worked… entirely. That is a 1800X+6950.
I’d really like to go back to Kubuntu (or Neon), but it would have to be a sure solution as I have just started a job and the free time is limited now. I tried lots of debugging measures, including trying to increase the memory maps (I think - please correct me if I’m wrong) to rather large number, as others said it was defined to on the Steam Deck. Also I tried SAM both on/off without luck. So, Windows it is for now, but I lurk in these sections on any input for gaming on Linux, hoping 😅
Not Linux related, but I prefer AMD due to less shady business practices than Intel.
Another point could be that most Linux users get an AMD GPU and then might go for an AMD CPU as well.
It's the AMD GPUs that are much better performing on linux than NVidia. My primary reason for choosing an AMD CPU was bangs for bucks.
But the GPU level (APU) on the other hand, Intel is still bad there. If you want a small box, where you can occasionally do some medium gaming, you better get AMD.
AMD chooses not to be evil so I am not shocked.
Not really surprised when you see how badly NVidia drivers are supported on Linux outside the proprietary ones…
Dude its about CPUs not GPUs
Yeah, saw that right after, reason why I deleted my comment. Might not have been spread all over yet.
I don't think it deletes for anyone on an instance different from you so you being on world means that it will always show up for me who is on sh.itjust.works
The closed source ones were good enough for quite a while; it was amd's closed source ones that were mediocre.
Course now that wayland is around Nvidia bungled their support for it ( trying to force their standard rather than what had been accepted by others), and Amd's open drivers have been solid the entire time afaik.
I play on Linux from time to time. (With my desktop which has AMD hardware and with the steam deck)
Desktop performance in Linux for me is like 80-90% of windows performance on AAA games that are DX12 based. So if the hardware is overkill for the game, I play it on Linux. If the hardware is not enough (for 1440p 144 FPS my limit), I play it on windows.
"AMD CPU use among people who run Linux, only play custom maps on CS:GO, refuse to buy anything on pistol round, still haven't learned how to use GIMP properly, and work as a low level IT slave, approaching 90%."
I mean, we do realize a large percentage of "Linux Gamers" are running steam decks, right? And AMD has been the best choice for Linux users for a while. 70% in that context is kinda sad.
ok nerd
do intel cpus not perform as well on linux? im a little ootl on this but i thought the cpu compatibility was just fine on both amd and intel on linux, unlike the gpu scene where amd is doing the best on linux
Intel runs just fine on Linux, but because AMD gives so much support and lip service to open source, and because Intel is the big bad market leader, there's a lot of "intel bad, amd good" in the open source community.
My original comment was trying to point out that "Linux Gamers" are an incredibly niche category filled with die hard linux fans with strong opinions and steam deck users. And frankly I'm surprised Intel has ANY marketshare with that crowd.
Intel CPUs work fine with Linux. They're still the market share leader and you'd hear a lot of complaining from Linux newcomers if you had problems on literally most pro laptops (Thinkpads were Intel-exclusive or close enough for a while).
GPUs is were vendor choice matters more, Nvidia is STARTING to get good, but AMD has been good for a while.
the among us brainrot is real
AMD Smart access memory apparently if you have both, not sure how much difference that makes though
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