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I seriously cannot have any degree of nuanced conversation here.

Like I get it, we all know capitalism is bad, but it feels like every time I or anyone go towards discussing the steps that need to be taken to address current looming problems in the short term, someone has to jump in and shut it down with "capitalism bad >:[ " and tear down any idea presented because its not complete and total destruction of the current economic model.

The result just feels like an echo chamber where no actual solutions get presented other than someone posting whole ass dissertations on their 33-step (where 30/33 steps are about as vague as "we'll just handle it") plan to fully convert the world to an anarchist commune.

Edit: I still vastly prefer Lemmy and the fediverse and a whole, my complaint here is that many of you are TOO INTENSE. You blow up small scale discussion.

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[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

/agree

Hot Take: I honestly don't know if I'm right or not about this, but it feels like it's a generational thing, and not just a Lemmy thing.

[–] Blaze@reddthat.com 3 points 9 months ago

Maybe try !casualconversation@lemmy.world ? It's more laid back

[–] FontMasterFlex@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

First day on the internet?

[–] doctorcrimson 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I actually find the conversations on Lemmy to be a lot more educated and in depth than the ones I've seen on Reddit or Twitter over the years. Sure, you still get a couple raving idiots chime in to accuse you of crimes against humanity occasionally, but it's not worth fretting over.

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[–] Icalasari@kbin.social 2 points 9 months ago

Yeah. It's a moderately popular forum. You need to find a small community or instance to get nuance because places trend towards echo chambers after a certain size

[–] spaduf@slrpnk.net 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

It's a shame that this discussion so frequently centers around the political discussions, but this has definitely seeped into the broader discourse. Short, low-effort comments with no actual content are nearly always at the top. The only solution I can see is to create some heavily moderated spaces where low-effort comments will not fly, but we've seen time and time again that lemmy users are more anti-moderation than most.

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[–] Hegar@kbin.social 2 points 9 months ago

I've found the fediverse mostly better than reddit. Better than most of the big subs, worse than a lot of niche subs.

Facebook was probably the most nuanced for me, but that was because I only ever interacted with ~20 people I personally knew.

I think the fediverse is too broad to expect a lot of nuanced discussion in the comments, but not populated enough for niche communities with enough common ground that you start to see meaningful discussion.

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