When I bought my truck in December, I was specifically on the hunt for something that had no connected features whatsoever, explicitly for the reasons in the article. I ended up finding a 2020 Ram that has a simple dumb infotainment system, and upon opening the dash to rip out the cellular module (I opted for a 19/20 Ram specifically for this), there wasn't even one installed. I know my phone is already tracking way too much, but I'm not about to let my insurance rate skyrocket because a computer deems me sliding on ice during the winter as driving irresponsibly.

[–] sanguinepar@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

How long though, before simply not having connected features counts against us? Not hard to imagine a future where it's mandatory in order to get insurance at all.

[–] knightly@pawb.social 2 points 7 months ago

I'll just sell my car at that point. If the privilege to drive is contingent on submitting to automotive surveillance then I'm going back to biking for groceries and calling a taxi for anything I can't reach by bus.

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 19 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They're trying really hard to get me to never buy a car again.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

Yeah same, one of these days I'm actually gonna break down and buy a moped

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Cars are all about freedom. Freedom to make money of off you from every. single. aspect. of your "ownership".

[–] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 11 points 8 months ago

Liberalism/capitalism in general really

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 13 points 8 months ago

General Motors is not the only automaker sharing driving behavior. Kia, Subaru and Mitsubishi also contribute to the LexisNexis “Telematics Exchange,” a “portal for sharing consumer-approved connected car data with insurers.” ...

Verisk also claims to have access to data from millions of vehicles and partnerships with major automakers, including Ford, Honda and Hyundai.

In case anyone was looking for a list of manufacturers to avoid... So just about all of them, really.

[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'll be waiting for my apologies.

https://sh.itjust.works/comment/9135572

[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 months ago

Meanwhile at the IMF: https://gizmodo.com/your-credit-score-should-be-based-on-your-web-history-1845912592

[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Kind of want to buy a new car but this is the main reasons I hesitate.

[–] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

And also you are likely to buy a car that you will only get in a year (or more) and half the electronics might be missing their chip. You'll get all sorts of garbage car apps and features that are meant to be deactivated in a few years when the subscription model is mainstream.

So I just bought a 2011. Standard transmission, 160k km, no monthly payments. Even with the worse possible maintenance/repair and the high prices for gas, I easily saved 25k. I could change the entire engine 5 times and it would still be cheaper than one major repair on new cars.

[–] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

Bought a 2000 Honda Civic. 175k miles. Sure beats the hell out of 25k to ???k spy gadget without physical buttons.

[–] ezchili@iusearchlinux.fyi 4 points 8 months ago

Capitalism... W..??