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[-] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 38 points 3 months ago

The best one has to be Suyu

[-] Sorse@discuss.tchncs.de 31 points 3 months ago

The name reminds me of sosumi (so, sue me!) from MacOS

[-] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago

I worked on a open source project that had to be shut down for some reason. Didn't really understand why. Just a scary email from GitHub. I immediately backed up the project folder.

A few months later, I found a similar project. Opened it up, and the directory organization was nearly the same.

[-] Smorty@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 3 months ago

As I'm one of the few contributors on the project, it will out my personal information to share it on Lemmy.

[-] Hildegarde@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago

Ryujinx, Dolphin, Mupen64, Cemu, Visual Boy Advance, BizHawk, RetroArch, Snes9x, Mesen, and others are emulators of Nintendo consoles that have not been taken down by Nintendo.

There are some important rules to follow if you want to make an emulator. Yuzu made some big mistakes. It's legal to build an emulator. It's not legal to profit from encouraging from piracy, or circumventing DRM which is what Yuzu did.

[-] euphoric_cat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 3 months ago

any switch emulator, and dolphin have to circumvent drm or encryption to work. dolphin literally includes the decryption keys yet nintendo hasnt tried to take them down, only when they warned valve about it. so they're all doing something illegal

[-] Hildegarde@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

And yet the project still is up.

Dolphin has a defense. There is a reverse engineering exemption to the DMCA that Dolphin is likely protected by. Dolphin's use of the keys might be entirely legal. If this went to court there's a reasonable chance Dolphin could win. It wouldn't be a clear-cut case at best.

The other thing protecting Dolphin is the fact Dolphin does not make money. They do not solicit donations publicly. Nintendo doesn't have easily citable patreon numbers to add to the damages, nor would Dolphin have the means to pay nintendo even if they won.

Taking Dolphin to court is a bad idea for nintendo. All risk, no reward. Keeps Dolphin safe unless one of those things changes, like putting it on steam.

[-] Takumidesh@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

It hasn't been determined by a court whether or not yuzu did anything wrong, they settled out of court.

[-] Hildegarde@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

They settled because they knew what would happen if it went to a court. Yuzu's actions were blatantly illegal.

It's also possible that Yuzu just didn't want to fight a legal battle which is expensive and very stressful. Chance of winning also obviously factor into that, but I don't see why it has to be the main reason.

[-] Hildegarde@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

They were making $30k a month from their patreon. That's enough money to afford a lawyer, and plenty of incentive to defend themselves in court if they genuine believed they weren't doing anything illegal.

Their patreon had custom builds of the emulator specifically tailored to run leaked games before release. In their own patreon, yuzu's developers admitted to having copies of nintendo's games at a time they could not be legally purchased. They also admitted to profiting from those illegally obtained ROMs for an amount that patreon shares publicly. That is the sort of slam-dunk evidence that would make nintendo's lawyers salivate.

This isn't an unclear situation. Yuzu was legally in the wrong. If this went to trial they would almost assuredly lose even more. If yuzu was doing more piracy there's no way to hide it during discovery.

[-] tubaruco@lemm.ee 14 points 3 months ago
[-] euphoric_cat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 3 months ago

yuzu got taken down and the names of forks like suzu are well...

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 31 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Can't wait for Y.U.Z.U

Yet Uh-nother yuZu-fork emUlator

[-] SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 months ago

Isn't the big fork SUYU? Yes, it's pronounced sue-you.

[-] euphoric_cat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 months ago

i dont even remember at this point

[-] Kidplayer_666@lemm.ee 14 points 3 months ago

Let’s make a fork called Kazoo

[-] bund@sh.itjust.works 14 points 3 months ago
[-] Bo7a@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Pazuuuuuzuuuuu, Oh pazuuuuzuuuuu

Where are you pazuzu?

[-] Gabu@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

In the Fire Nation, having tea.

[-] puchaczyk@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 3 months ago

Nintendo's approach to this is more like impaling one project in front of the rest to let them know what will happen if they even think about doing anything that could interfere with Nintendo's business.

[-] slacktoid@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 months ago

Except theres more holes and gophers every time you get one.

[-] ouRKaoS 3 points 3 months ago

Whack-a-Hydra

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