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Are moderators just purely altruistic? Or do they have an ulterior motive?

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[–] Epicurus0319@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Most of lemmy’s community mods thus far are just passionate pioneers who want to refound their favorite subreddits here and then invite people over and demote interested people to mod to make more entirely-new moderators, if the migrated subs are big ones, then odds are the actual mods for the originals are the powertripping, far-left and probable-chomo type who don’t wanna give up the powertrip they enjoy on reddit for a small refuge that nobody posts on in comparison.

[–] I_Miss_Daniel@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

I'm a light handed mod for a Facebook group of about 2,000 people. If I didn't do that it'd either have to go private or it would be overrun with spam. I care about my community and giving everyone a fair go, so that's why I do it.

I would imagine being a mod on a fediverse community would be much the same.

[–] Entropywins@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

I recently offered to mod and the 3 other mods seem to have the same feeling... it needed to be done and we want the community to thrive... I'll let ya know when the power gets to my head though

[–] laurelinae@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

"Only aim to do your duty, and mankind will give you credit where you fail." 🫡

[–] MedicareForSome@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (10 children)

On Reddit, I think a lot of them monetize it. But generally speaking it’s a rewarding thing to feel like you’re building something greater than yourself.

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[–] AdventureSpoon@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I've been a mod on a game subReddit. Mostly because there was only one active mod before and they couldn't handle it all. Game wasn't particularly universally loved so general internet hate and Reddit hivemind hate often spilled over into it. Why I did it? Because I enjoyed talking about that game in a positive environment.

In all honesty: the negative vibes on Reddit towards moderators took a lot of the joy out of it. Imagine temp banning someone because they keep calling racist slurs towards other users, then perma banning them because they continue, and then they start making new accounts over and over to send hateful messages towards you. Then you browse some Reddit for your own leisure only to read the general consensus that all mods are powerhungry faggots.

End result was worth it though, I guess? Sub is in a good place now. Positive vibes, and little bullshit. No longer an active mod though, because without RIF I don't have to proper tools to keep moderating from phone. Can't even enjoy it the way I used though. Bitter? Slightly. But I have good hopes about my new online social environment here.

[–] VanillaGorilla@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've met power hungry asshole mods. I'm sure I've met plenty of great ones, but you don't realize they're mods because they don't behave like idiots and are just normal users that are nice enough to interact with. I guess the people who generalized mods are mainly the ones that get banned rightfully.

[–] snooggums@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

When people complain about certain roles like moderators and project managers they always focus on thee terrible ones because that is what humans tend to focus on. Those roles wouldn't exist if they weren't necessary to handle large numbers of people interacting, and 99% of the time the people in the roles are fine and everything goes smoothly and nobody really notices.

Unfortunately those roles are attractive to power hungry people and those few are who everyone remembers.

and everything goes smoothly and nobody really notices

Exactly this. In the sub I frequented the most, we had a huge problem with T-shirt scammers and Karma Farming repost bots, but the mods usually nuked those pretty fast. However, since we're all busy adults with limited spare time, the mods can not be online and vigilant 24/7 and occasionally a bot or scammer slipped through the cracks.

I wasn't a mod (didn't want to, TBH) but always openly called these out in addition to reporting them, just to make sure noone clicked on the scam links until an actual mod was able to remove the post. In these situations it happened quite often that people started to argue with me, demanded to know why I thought that "totally harmless guy showing off a cool shirt" was a scammer and the like, simply because THEY had never ever seen a scam attempt in the sub before - as those posts were usually removed pretty quickly ...

[–] VanillaGorilla@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Unfortunately those roles are attractive to power hungry people and those few are who everyone remembers.

That's the sad part. I've met more incompetent or power hungry people in management positions than really good ones. They exist, but I've made my peace with those who at least don't keep me from working.

[–] jonion@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)
[–] fugepe@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

lmao clean it jannies.

[–] Arotrios@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Yes.

It's all for your own good, dumpling...

[–] JasSmith@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Control. These people have almost no agency in their lives. They typically don’t work, or if they do, choose low responsibility roles with few demands on them. They also tend to live meagre lives, often living with parents and flat mates. They tend to be socially awkward, often self diagnosing autism and other afflictions. They revel in their victimhood, and choose to construct grand narratives about how their failures are the fault of society, and not them.

Consequently, they have very little control over their lives, and very low self esteem. They seek out control in the only place they will ever experience it: online communities.

[–] norapink@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago
[–] AmidFuror@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

You just described trolls.

[–] fugepe@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So you decided to come here and spit truth?

[–] JasSmith@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I used to be a Reddit moderator for a 1M+ sub. That was me. I feel qualified to talk about my experience and that of all the other Reddit moderators I knew.

[–] Huxleywaswrite@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I was a mod on reddit for a few years. There was a very small sub for a cartoon/toy line I liked as a kid and the community was shuddered because there was no active mod. I didn't think it would get much traffic and I was right. Once I got it back opened we'd have maybe 6-10 posts a years, mostly toy collections. It was super low effort to me, I had one t-shirt spam I had to remove and a few comments, so it was worth it to have it open again. It'll close when I finally get around to deleting my account

[–] skogens_ro@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just look at how the reddit protest ended. Once threatened with losing their status as mods, they all caved.

Money and power are powerful motivators, and the mods work for free.

[–] DrChickenbeer@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

@skogens_ro

A tremendous amount of mods (myself included) left Reddit permanently. The loss of the folk that take time out of their day to ensure others can have a fun time will be felt, because it left the Just Want Power types in charge.

@CaspianXI

[–] writeblankspace@geddit.social 1 points 1 year ago

Personally, I would want to be a mod because ooh status and also because I want to make myself useful, do stuff, etc. Basically if I have so much time in my hands that I could help out in an online community.

Idk though, those were my thoughts when I was 13 and now I'm just too lazy to want to be a moderator, and too easily triggered.

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