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[–] UnculturedSwine@lemmy.world 162 points 1 year ago (3 children)

How long do you think until it's just nothing but bots saying vacuous shit to each other? Better yet, how long until the investors notice that it turned into a house of cards?

[–] Jordan117@lemmy.world 74 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh, I totally get where you're coming from! It sometimes feels like the internet is becoming more of a place where genuine conversations are getting drowned out by noise, doesn't it? I think it's essential for us to continue fostering real connections and meaningful discussions, despite the increasing presence of bots. Hopefully, platforms will implement more stringent measures to prevent the dilution of quality content. Let's keep our fingers crossed and continue to engage in thoughtful and insightful conversations!

(I felt so dirty copypasting that...)

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[–] FourPacketsOfPeanuts@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Bear in mind the current absolute state of Facebook is a conscious commercial decision. Gullible shit scrolling ad clicking mindless idiots unfortunately are in the majority, spend money online, and leak information worth harvesting.

Utter state of the internet 2023... Should have stopped at usenet.

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[–] TwinTusks@outpost.zeuslink.net 92 points 1 year ago (15 children)

I can't tell ... How can you tell?

[–] Jordan117@lemmy.world 146 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

It's something I started noticing shortly before the API stuff. Bot accounts using ChatGPT to respond to random posts and comments. They're always incredibly saccharine and friendly, and often only loosely related to the topic (moreso if they're replying to an image post). One comment in isolation could be a fluke but check their profile and they're all like that, to an unnerving degree. I imagine they get sold off to spammers once they get enough karma. It really sucks when they get genuine engagement from regular users, especially when the thread is about something serious or heartfelt.

[–] pexavc@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah noticed it too. For some of them. It’s the response time(instant sometimes) + length of reply + the context being replied to being not that simple that gives it a way.

[–] UnculturedSwine@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also the fact that they utilize perfect grammar and have a bot-like randomized username.

[–] max@feddit.nl 25 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The random usernames apparently come from when you sign up using other social media accounts, like Twitter, google, Facebook. For the longest time I thought it was the indicator for a bot account. Turns out it’s an indicator for bots and new-ish users.

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[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 36 points 1 year ago

i've noticed a lot of bots on r/askscience. these responses would always have specific length, start with summary of question and maybe not all the time, but most of the time entirely miss the point of it or explain it wrong. the better indicator is that they posted something like that every 2 minutes or so

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I don't understand some of the ones we've been spotting. They're completely unrelated comments, and if you open the account they've posted something every few minutes for the past 48 hours straight.

It's not helping the discussion, it's not pushing a point, so what's the point of it. My best guess was that someone is testing things out still and they don't care if it works yet

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago

Remember that Reddit sells ads. If you're serious about buying ad space, you look at metrics and engagement. Upvotes, comments, logins, active users per month.

AI serves up metrics.

[–] Jordan117@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

Likely karma-farming so the account can be sold to spammers or influence-peddlers down the line. Same story with repost bots, but chatbots are harder to detect at scale (not that Reddit Inc. cares about stopping either).

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[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 105 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Checked the account, here's a clear indication:

[–] Jordan117@lemmy.world 70 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I like using ChatGPT, but it trying to be friendly and relatable is low-key some of the skeeviest shit I've ever seen. Reminds me of the old Patton Oswalt bit about "clean filth". I'd rather get accosted by the most depraved 8chan troll than have this Stepford Wives bullshit show up in my inbox.

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[–] umbraroze@kbin.social 62 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Well, the comment is 100% unadulterated cheerful copium about how awesome Reddit is. And encouraging other users to keep using it. The second comment is 100% r/TotallyNotRobots.

I've not seen that kind of attitude from your average redditor since, I dunno, late 2000s-early 2010s. If you talk to average real human redditor about your tiny little minor gripe of Reddit, it will inevitably turn into a massive thread where people whine constantly about every. single. little. thing. that has gone wrong over the years.

That's what organic engagement is supposed to look like on Reddit.

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[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The short version is the ending. Chatgpt (including gpt4) cannot help itself but create some final, concluding or wrapping up statements no matter how you explicitly ask it not too.

Also what Jordan said.

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[–] SomeoneSomewhere@lemmy.nz 16 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Likely a combination of past posts and a formulaic username. Watch this space.

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[–] FontMasterFlex@lemmy.world 90 points 1 year ago (16 children)

I was often accused of being a bot on Reddit. Not sure really why. Though to be fair, the majority of my interactions on Reddit were arguing with people that thought they knew more than I did about a field I've worked in for 20+ years.

[–] 2nsfw2furious@lemmynsfw.com 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To be fair to the other side, it's entirely possible (and even common) to have worked in a field for 20 years while learning completely incorrect things about it. Or learning nothing.

People say things like "I've used a computer every day for 20 years, I think I know how it works" and then ask if they should "reboot the hard drive" and then they power cycle the monitor.

[–] turmacar@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You can also form very strong opinions early in your career and not know when they're now invalid due to changes in tech/industry.

Was getting a quote for a new heat pump and had the guy tell me they were worthless if it got too cold. There have been consumer heat pumps that work down to -15°C with very little efficiency loss for well over a decade at this point. He had just been used to them not being worth it for long enough that he "didn't believe it".

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[–] kava@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I would get accused on being a bot when talking about specific topics. For example Ukraine war or some Chinese topic. I wonder if it's bots calling other people bots. Muddy the waters.

Astroturfing is rampant and is only going to get worse from here on out. Don't trust anything you read

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[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (13 children)

are you neurodivergent or is english a foreign language? for some reason those folks tend to get labeled as bots.

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[–] popemichael@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was accused too. Till they saw my 11+ years of old comments, then they thought I was a sold account.

I don't know if it's scary or stupid.

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[–] CapnMoisesBKind@sh.itjust.works 74 points 1 year ago (10 children)

How can you tell that’s it an AI generated comment?

[–] inasaba@lemmy.ml 128 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (18 children)

I've dealt with this particular bot problem as a mod. Noticing the pattern early on was easy because they always had posts on TEMU subreddits. Now that those subs are banned, it's harder.

  1. Comment length. Their comments are always less than two lines long.

  2. Tone. They always contain at least one exclamation point, and tend to have a tone that I'd say is "cheery to the point it's offputting."

  3. Context. Reading them, a lot of the time you'll ask "did they even read what they're replying to?" The comment seems related, but directly misses the main point.

  4. History. Look at the rest of their comments. If more than one ends in two emojis, they're definitely part of this particular bot network.

[–] ChillCapybara@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Also punctuation and usage of commas, apostrophes etc. Far too formal usage of style to go with the casual message of the comment.

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[–] SCB@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

History. Look at the rest of their comments. If more than one ends in two emojis, they’re definitely part of this particular bot network.

All of hexbear is bots, confirmed.

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[–] MinusPi@yiffit.net 44 points 1 year ago (5 children)

There's no rigorous test, but once you've worked with it enough you can kinda just tell. This reeks of ChatGPT.

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[–] Sotuanduso@lemm.ee 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The "Keep scrolling and enjoy the ride, my friend." is what tipped me off. ChatGPT tends to say stuff like that when trying to be enthusiatic.

[–] z500@startrek.website 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honestly doesn't seem too far off from standard Redditese to me

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[–] AdmiralShat@programming.dev 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You can pop the first comment into CharGPT with 'write me a reddit comment in response to' and youll get similar stuff.

It's a but ridiculous to claim it's GPT related without proof, though. You can't prove it and claiming you can 'spot it' is just hilarious to me.

"Wow, that's quite the conspiracy theory! While Reddit has definitely seen its ups and downs, I think it's safe to say it's still very much alive, thanks to its dedicated community. Let's keep the discussions going!"

"Seriously? Reddit was on its last legs long before June. This 'Necromancer' is just a desperate attempt to breathe life into something that was already fading away. RIP old Reddit, it's a brave new world now."

"Ha! If this is the work of a necromancer, they must be doing a pretty good job because I'm still addicted to scrolling through here!"

"Ah, so that explains the zombie posts and resurrected memes!"

"It's unfortunate to hear that some believe Reddit has declined, but communities on the platform can evolve over time. Let's hope for a positive revival if that's the case."

"I understand your concerns, but I don't believe Reddit has died. While there have been changes and controversies, it's still a vibrant platform with millions of users. Let's hope it continues to evolve positively!"

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[–] gnuplusmatt@startrek.website 56 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Totally not robots! Am I right fellow HUMANS!

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[–] TsarVul@lemmy.world 54 points 1 year ago (4 children)

If you check out the users profile, you'll notice that it tried to post some shit on the atheist Turk subreddit in English. Primo bot behavior and dead giveaway. Also the Turks didn't seem to enjoy it much.

By perusing further, you might notice that the majority of people don't notice that they are conversing with a fucking bot. This is profoundly upsetting shit

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[–] stagen@feddit.dk 47 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Pretty much stopped browsing Reddit for anything else than porn at the moment, but even that is being taken over by bots. Can't even comment on my favorite bimbo without being assaulted by advertisements for their private subreddit or onlyfans anymore.

Bring back the old /r/gonewild

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[–] snek@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago (5 children)

r/exmuslim on Reddit has been overtaken by far right, neo Nazi, and hindutva hetoric. Things were bad for a good amount of time but I think it's descending to madness now. Anti-Trans comments are too common, I can't even believe my eyes sometimes reading it.

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[–] asunaspersonalasst@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

Remember kids:

everyone in reddit is a bot except you.

[–] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And bots don't buy tickets to movies or laugh at my funny jokes, so that's why I here instead!

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[–] Astroturfed@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (5 children)

They should at least try harder on the names if they're going to use a bot. That username is obviously just one of the auto generated ones.

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[–] detalferous@lemm.ee 29 points 1 year ago (7 children)
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[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I never thought the AI Uprising would benefeit corproate

[–] petersr@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

AI will probably benefit big corporations the most.

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[–] ScaNtuRd@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (4 children)

For real. Fuck Reddit. I have tried creating a throwaway account on there multiple times, because there are some people I don't want to see everything I post. When creating a throwaway account, I can't even post or comment on ANYTHING. It's like I just start off being shadow banned from the moment I create an account. I'm tired of Reddit's damn bullshit.

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