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I think I’ve settled on the latter. Disagreement is maybe best communicated by the absence of an upvote? And downvotes work best when they signal something that is just off base, and while not reportable, is not appreciated at a broad cultural level.

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[–] Nachorella@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Everyone will come up with their own metric and the results will be an average of both and other things.

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[–] Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 year ago

Depends on what kind of "I don't agree". If somebody asks for people's favorite food, I'm not going to dislike all other answers... But if it's a more serious question, and an answer just has a really bad take that I don't agree with, that's getting a dislike.

[–] doppelgangmember@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Sad part of the design is that I need to interact with a post to get it off my feed so if it's an some stupid meme or whatever i just downvote and move on to clear up all the repeats.

The setting is off by default but you turn on hide post after interaction in the settings.

[–] oxjox@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

On Reddit, up/down was intended to be used as relevant or not relevant. Then Facebook came around with the Like button and changed the standard.

Coming from the perspective of Digg, Reddit was about sharing external content and giving something an upvote was used to promote that content while a downvote was used to discourage that content from being seen. It was democratic in that the users were relied on for ranking posts without the need for moderators having to establish rules and remove things.

Then Reddit employed an algorithm and most people visit Popular and All making it a shitstorm of irrelevance. People upvote stuff they like that has absolutely no reason to be posted in a sub. Never mind everything that's gone on with Reddit in recent months, it's users' inability to properly use the upvote / downvote buttons that has caused the site to become absolute trash.

Here, we have the added tool of the Star to indicate that we like something while at the same time downvoting it because it's not relevant to the sub. The problem is that the vast majority of people don't want to think about or put any effort into anything. At this point, anything that looks like a thumbs up is getting selected because they like it.

If you disagree with someone, you shouldn't do anything unless you have something to say. Engage with them in conversation and express your point of view - this is "social media". If others feel your point is relevant you should get an upvote; if you're off topic you should get a downvote.

Reading over the other comments here, I think most people are expressing a similar perspective. It's about rankings, not feelings.

[–] asparagus9001@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's weird how nobody ever goes off on these philosophical treatises about what a downvote is REALLY supposed to be for unless they copped a shit ton of downvotes for their awful takes

To quote the famed philosopher T. Soprano: "Alright, but you gotta get over it."

[–] maegul@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

I don't that's entirely fair or true across the board. I haven't received a ton of downvotes or anything, but realised that I didn't know what to do with the downvote and that some were clearly using downvotes where I don't think I would have.

For my, it was more sympathetic. I was thinking about people who do get downvoted and whether I'm ok with that.

[–] milicent_bystandr@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

I think someone else mentioned the same here, but as I've browsed down the opinions, I wonder if it's good for different communities to have their own subculture on what votes mean.

For sure, outsiders dropping by might vote 'counter-culturally' and unhelpfully, but you can get a general sense of understanding in a community.

For r/all-alike stuff I'm sure things are different.

[–] ironcrotch@aussie.zone 4 points 1 year ago

More like get this shit outa here

[–] astroturds@startrek.website 4 points 1 year ago

I only downvote hateful stuff or obvious bots and spam. The same as I do on anything with upvotes and downvotes.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Downvote for bad technical advise, I think the person is a bad actor/bad faith argument, or if the person turns ~~hostile~~ to ad hominem attacks. I try not to downvote if I'm putting the effort into debating someone.

edit: for clarity

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[–] Zippy@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I like it to gauge what the general consensus is. Agree or not.

[–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Dr_Cog@mander.xyz 4 points 1 year ago

I disagree so I gave you a downvote

[–] luthis@lemmy.nz 3 points 1 year ago

Upvoted. Feel bad that i disagree. 😵

[–] Im28xwa@lemdro.id 2 points 1 year ago

Hmm interesting question never thought about it, maybe both/varies from post to post

[–] Naia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago

I generally don't downvote unless somone is being bigoted or hateful.

[–] Saigonauticon@voltage.vn 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's some part of my brain that applies display:none to the upvote/downvote function on every platform.

So if I don't vote on your content it's not because I hate it. My brain is just wired to automatically edit out anything that's not content. Mostly this means ads, but voting features seem to have been caught in the net too.

[–] rynzcycle@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I feel this very much, but yet I've upvoted you... The brain is weird.

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