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[–] johannesvanderwhales@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I'm more prone to making the slides be my notes, possibly with data-driven visual aids. 3-5 short bullet points per slide is usually reasonable. I don't actually give a lot of presentations these days, though.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I take this to the extreme: my slides have little to no text, or even white space. Each slide is basically a collage for pointing at while I rant about the thing. I'm a mechanical engineer, so I also imitate the sounds the machine makes.

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[–] casual_turtle_stew_enjoyer@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I hate these kinds of slides because I'll come across them somewhere and be like "WHAT THE FUCK IS THE CONTEXT FOR THESE NUMBERS??? WHAT DOES THIS HALF-ASS DIAGRAM REPRESENT?" and the information I extract becomes less usable as a result.

I often won't read PowerPoints in that style unless a recording of the presentation is available, otherwise I just pretend it doesn't exist and get my information elsewhere because certainty ain't optional mf.

[–] johannesvanderwhales@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

I think if you've chosen your bullet points well then the point should come across through them, but if you're looking for a higher level of detail then the slide deck is probably not gonna get you there regardless. It's standard practice to record this type of presentation, but if you're really wanting a deep dive, you probably want to see the supporting documents, not just an executive summary. I guess it depends on what kind of presentation we're talking about, too, because a presentation to push info up to management is pretty different from the type someone might give at a conference.

[–] mkwt@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (10 children)

CDR time!

(except I've had CDRs that were scheduled for a full work week, 40 hours)

[–] apocalypticat@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

You had a 40-hour Colonoscopy Debris Removal procedure? Big ups to you!

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[–] Eccitaze@yiffit.net 6 points 10 months ago

One of my side projects at work is to record training presentations and I try to be so conscious about this--both trying to avoid the word salad slides, and also trying to make my lecture not just reading the slide word-for-word but actually explaining and expanding on the slide content (with my verbal lecture transcribed as a note in the slide and handed out for anybody who might be hard of hearing/doesn't want to sit through a 30-minute video)

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Ugh, I always tell students to avoid this.

That said it reminds me of Larry David on Conan podcast of how he got out of a movie test screening. "I've got one question and then I've gotta go...".

Ah, treasures, both of them.

[–] smowtenshi@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I remember back in high school my teachers would always warn students for doing presentations like that, yet all of them did exactly the same thing. And it was even worse in university, when we had to listen to 2 hours presentation read word by word with monotone voice.

[–] ours@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Ugh the monotone voice is the worst. A colleague of mine does that. If you are making a presentation and you sound bored all the way through, guess how your audience is going to feel?

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[–] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago

Rather than simply give you a piece of text to read, they do it like this so that you can't scan it to figure out what is actually important and focus on that. Every moment and detail must be indulged to the full.

Proper dickhead move.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Lets hope they forgot to run spellcheck

[–] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I always feel obligated to reword so it doesn't seem like I'm reading off the slide. But then people are reading the slide and listening at the same time and I'm not sure it's better.

[–] droans@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

If the slide has all the information, then it's a poor slide deck.

The slides are supposed to be an outline. The rule of thumb is max seven lines and max seven words per line.

Here's a couple examples.

Good slide:

  • Revenue: -10% vs Estimate
  • Industry trends
  • Low demand for new products
  • Strong demand for XYZ

Also good slide, depending on who you're presenting to:

  • Revenue: -10% vs Estimate
  • Industry: -3%
  • New products: -30%
  • XYZ: +4%

Bad slide:

  • Revenue is 10% below estimate
  • Industry has seen a 3% drop in sales
  • New products ABC and MNO have had a 30% lower demand than we expected
  • Product XYZ has higher demand than anticipated with sales 4% higher than estimate

All the extra information on the bad slide can be delivered by the presenter. It's not necessary on the slide. The slide is for people to glance at to assist them during and after the presentation and to help them anchor themselves in the discussion.

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