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[–] barbara@lemmy.ml 15 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

I would only use it if the devs are highly reputable. It contains all your passwords and possibly all your wealth as well.

I'm not saying the dev isn't. I'm just saying that with this you really have to know what you do.

[–] tazy@lemmy.tazy.xyz 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Na fork it and do your own security analysis

[–] lemmyreader@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 months ago

Good point. Makes me think that at some point in time no one was using KeePassXC (or KeePass or similar) or Bitwarden. Same for the first 2FA security keys. Who can you trust ? There will always be a trust decision to make or audit or have it audited or what not.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I agree. I'm glad this exists. But for certain threat models introducing extra supply chain attack vectors is unacceptable

[–] lemmyreader@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Run Vaultwarden within your LAN and give this application no outgoing network access except to your local Vaultwarden ?

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That's a reasonable thing to do. But your supply chain could still be compromised, using a different front end increases the entire risk surface. If nothing else there's less eyeballs looking at your front end. There could be IPC the front end uses to pass messages via other channels. It's a larger threat profile.

[–] lemmyreader@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Okay. Would you recommend manually copy & paste and not use the Chrome or Firefox extension for Bitwarden ?

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

That's down to you and your threat model. Look at the downside of a breach, and look at the convenience of the browser integration. And make the choice for yourself.

For instance, if I was logging into a top secret military system, I would not use browser integration. That would be outside my threat model

Not to mention copy and paste on many systems is very insecure. On desktop computers any application can copy from that buffer without you being aware of it. On telephones are getting better about letting you know when an app copied the copy and paste buffer. But it's something you should model

If you decide to type the password in manually, what else is listening to your keystrokes? If you're running discord with a push to talk button. Discord usually gets to see everything that you type. Is discord part of your threat model?

I bring these scenarios up just to illustrate that being aware of your threat model trade-offs and risk tolerance is important.

[–] technomad@slrpnk.net 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Oh cool, I didn't realize that there were frontends for bitwarden. Does anybody use this, or similar ones? If so, what's your thoughts on them?

[–] lemmyreader@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 months ago

This OpenBSD developer is where I got the link from : https://bsd.network/@solene/112337523889864324 and there's Goldwarden, a desktop app for Bitwarden : https://flathub.org/apps/com.quexten.Goldwarden

[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

What is it? I looked up rofi but that's even more confusing. Maybe a screenshot or two would help in the readme?

[–] lemmyreader@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Rofi is a window switcher, run dialog and dmenu replacement. Screenshots : https://screenshots.debian.net/package/rofi

So that means that with a keyboard shortcut a menu will pop up where you can either start typing and it will do suggestions for you, or you click on what is already available. It's nice for people who prefer to not do too many mouse clicking (think : RSI).

[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That's neat but how is it related to bitwarden? That's where I'm stumped.

[–] lemmyreader@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 months ago

I've not looked much further into this software but it looks like it would use rbw, a command line tool for Bitwarden, to work with rofi.