Hazzard

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[–] Hazzard@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm not sure I understand your position here, because voting is such a minor part of the system. A troll that only trolls by upvoting and downvoting isn't much of a threat, unless they've got a dozen alt accounts or a botnet, both of which are different situations that should be handled differently. "The definition of a troll" is ridiculous hyperbole.

And as far as bans are concerned, that's a moderation problem, not your role as an individual. I've never suggested votes should be completely untraceable, that'd be patently ridiculous and remove the ability to actually handle vote manipulation. Moderators and admins should obviously have that access, as I've asserted in this thread.

I'm also not advocating my votes be anonymous, I'm fine with having them public on my page. That alone gives you the complete ability to make a judgement about me as a person, or whatever it is you want to do with that. What I'm suggesting is that a user who's just been downvoted shouldn't have a trivial way of linking it to the individual who downvoted them in order to harass them.

Frankly, the impression I'm getting is that you're not actually paying much attention to the case I've made, and are instead just using my comments as a platform to have a completely different argument that you're passionate about. That's the ONLY way that you could have missed my point so entirely, and come to the conclusion that I could ONLY be a troll or a moron.

[–] Hazzard@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It's not being a troll, downvotes are part of the system for a reason: suppressing toxicity. If you downvote a toxic comment to push it down in the algorithm, there shouldn't be a risk of that toxic person deciding they have a grudge and attacking you personally. Otherwise you risk downvotes not being used for their intended purpose, and an overall more toxic environment.

[–] Hazzard@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Yeah, having it on your user page is much less dangerous, imo. Still a possibility of getting called out if you downvote someone you're arguing with, but you're already in the comments there.

The only way I see a problem is if someone writes a bot or extension that reads the user profile into something "per comment", and if that gets enough traction and use to build up a strong database. However, in that case, I'd imagine the Lemmy devs would build a feature to let instance admins hide that information from regular users.

[–] Hazzard@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oooh, good point. As an admin/moderator feature, that's a much better idea.

[–] Hazzard@lemm.ee 131 points 1 year ago (16 children)

Hmmm, tbh, I don't think that's a feature I'd want. Every now and again you see "that guy" furious that he's getting downvotes, doubling down and trying to start an argument or something. I don't need that guy showing up in my DMs.

[–] Hazzard@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're probably making a joke, but I'll explain it just in case anyway. It's Prequel Trilogy (movies 1-3), Original Trilogy (movies 4-6), Sequel Trilogy (movies 7-9), and Expanded Universe (books, TV shows, comics, games, etc), fairly established terms within the Star Wars fandom.

As a bonus, there's also "Legends", referring to the EU content Disney decanonized when they started the sequels.

[–] Hazzard@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Absolutely, I agree. Let me clarify, I don't think all people are secretly evil or anything, or that power corrupts all, my feelings are more that positions of immense power attract a certain type. I completely believe that we can have a moral leader, who means well and does all they can, but how do you setup a system like that with longevity? How do you check and balance that kind of power in the long term, when someone takes it who does want to corrupt it, and will say anything to get their way, and has the support of the average person?

A generation or two of prosperity doesn't interest me if it creates all the tools and power for long lasting dystopia.

Also, just to be crystal clear (although I don't think you're insinuating this either), in no way do I think communists are out for power, or ill intentioned in the slightest. I would've said I'm communist myself a decade ago, but after a while of watching corrupt pastors, politicians, and businessman weasel their way into incredible power, and how they'll say one thing and do another, the more convinced I become of the need for a system that limits the power in any one place.

Lastly, I'm not so sure about China? Do feel free to share some resources, maybe I'm exclusively hearing the bad here, but aren't they involved in Uyghur genocide, and a country with some of the worst privacy imaginable? I'm still interested to hear about their political theory, but it doesn't seem like a government I'd want to live in.

[–] Hazzard@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Different person, but my issue with communism is that it puts too much power in the hands of government, which, thus far, has always led to some abusive power figure corrupting the whole thing for personal gain. It's a wonderful theory, I'm just not convinced humanity will ever be able to make it actually work long term.

That said, I definitely think we should be dabbling with it, and moving more and more power out of the hands of corporations. There's a balance in there somewhere.

[–] Hazzard@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

This is very intriguing.... I actually work in CBC (nowhere near content or with the social media people who'd make these kinds of decisions), but as a developer I get 20% time to dabble with anything I think might be useful. I haven't used it in a while, but a CBC ActivityPub instance may be just the right project, especially if it can auto-publish our content from the same feeds that power our site.

[–] Hazzard@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Eh, there's a lot of valid things to be skeptical about. Using these tools as a DM is fundamentally different from using them as a massive corporation, as you're not considering replacing your team of talented artists and writers to cut costs.

That said, done right, I also think this could be amazing. Legally train these models on the wealth of historical D&D art, and provide it to DMs to use during their campaigns to make maps, art for places the DM is describing on the fly, all of these things that no artist could possibly make because these locations are being invented on the fly as the players throw a skilled DM curveballs. D&D feels like an ideal "problem" for a lot of the "solutions" AI has to offer.

[–] Hazzard@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Holy dang. I got all the wells, all the caves, a complete compendium, and all the quests done, and even I think you're nuts for this one!

Surely you had to use some kind of tracker app for this, right? No way you just ran around long enough to accomplish all of this.

[–] Hazzard@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

I also feel like a lot of the value of chronological is lost if I think it's algorithmic recommendations. If I don't know I'm browsing the latest? I'll likely just think the algorithm is serving up some garbage. Especially somewhere like Facebook, where people haven't really been curating their feed for years, just... following whoever to be polite and letting the algorithm take care of it.

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