Hex

If this isnt the space to have a discussion about this, that is fine and I apologize. What I was trying to say is: i am unsure if i agree with the opinion, but I thought of it and it seems solid, so i would like to have a discussion about it to see if it is, and hence if i should agree with it. intentional devils advocate isnt great, but also, if no one ever talks about opinions that might be wrong, they never learn those opinions are wrong.

Fair enough, sorry for misrepresenting your culture. The point I was trying to get to was that, in general, prescribing use of language is bad. A word means what the person saying it intended it to mean (and of course, the other side of that blade means that calling anyone anything can be rude / hurtful if it has that intention behind it) and as English develops, in some dialects of it, words like "bro" and "dude" are not meant with the meaning of "man family member" and "man (gender)" in some applications, and choosing to resist that change because the words previous meanings could be harmful in some contexts might not be something I agree with.

If this is not the space for this discussion to be had I apologize, but it is one i would like to have

I appologise (un-ironically)

I admit I am still a little debatebro brained, and I did not realize this was the trans specific comm when I first posted, If this is not a space for disagreement, I apologize for inserting my opinion into it.

I do not support intentional or malicious use of bro/guys to misgender, And if anyone in particular were to ask me to stop referring to them as such, I would (and do) try my best to do so.

My goal was to start a productive discussion about the conflict between the take you posted and linguistic descriptivism, which I tend to align myself with and believe is a popular opinion in these circles. I feel justified to discuss this issue as I identify with groups that use bro and dude as a gender neutral form of address, and hence I feel justified to defend myself. once again, if this is not the space for that I apologize, and will remove myself from the discussion, however If anyone would like to have a productive discussion on the topic I am open to changing or refining my opinion.

I also used a poor tone for my goal, and to communicate my dissatisfaction in the response i received, reedit snark is a hard thing to get out of your system.

edit: forgot how formatting worked, broke up brick of text into pieces

Yes yes sorry I forgot no one is allowed to be contrarian about anything ever

Alternative take that i dont necessarily beleive in but has been bouncing around in my head a while: In the dialect of the English language my sub-culture typically ascribes to, dude is gender neutral when used as an address, please don't assume I am using language incorrectly because it doesn't follow the rules of your dialect. Would you go to Australia and pear-clutch because someone called you a c*** (in the familiar/genial use of the word)

edit: https://hexbear.net/comment/4648973

What like "oops I took a wrong turn and crashed into the core of a nuclear reactor?" We have some revolutionary new technology that they've been cooking up in the lab to help with that, it's called a fence / walll / bollards

this is what you get from incremental improvement of existing technologies. instead american bazingas wonder why build good trains when hyperloop is Coming Soon^TM^