Since I suspect not everyone viewing this thread is a SFF PC enthusiast, SFF PC stands for "Small Form Factor Personal Computer". The community generally likes to categorize any computers under 20 L in volume as a SFF PC.
My PC uses a boutique/enthusiast case called the FormD T1 which is 9.95 L in volume. I can barely hold it in one hand (it's still very heavy though because it's so dense).
LMK if you have any questions about my build or the community in general. Happy to answer questions.
Parts List
- CPU: i7-13700k
- GPU: 4090 FE
- Motherboard: MSI MPG Z790i Edge
- Ram: Corsair Vengeance RGB 5600 (OCed to 6000 CL36)
- PSU: Asus ROG Loki SFX-L 1000W
- Cooler: Corsair H100i Elite Capellix w/ LCD screen kit
- Case: FormD T1 Silver
- Custom Cables: Cablester
- Keyboard: Space65 R3 with Osume Dalgona keycaps
Posted this on r/SFFPC on Reddit, but might as well post here. Build was quite tough due to the AIO + SFX-L combo. The AIO also requires a separate fan/RGB hub, so there ends up being very little room for cable management.
Temps are on the high side, but that was expected with the 13700k and a slightly gimped 240 mm AIO due to having to use a slim fan in the T1. Idle coolant temps are 42 C (ambient ~30 C). Gaming coolant temps between 46 C to 50 C and occasionally up to 52 C, but that's only when my ambient temps are 35 C. My personal danger threshold for the coolant is 55 C, so I try to target under 50 C. CPU temps at load is anywhere from 60 C to 75 C.
Works well though otherwise. Scored 27818 on Cinebench R23, with PL1=PL2=200w, -110 mV offset, Lite Load 1, and LLC 5. CPU temps hit 95 C during the benchmark, and coolant temps hit 52 C.
4090 FE's cooler is overbuilt and idles around 37 C and reaches 65 C at load. A complete non-issue temperature-wise for this build.
Any modern PC can handle basic tasks such as streaming videos and browsing the web, or else they would not sell.
I believe both the ones you listed can handle Minecraft, assuming you play an unmodded one. If you're modding it with ray tracing and other graphically intensive mods, then probably not.