MrGG

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[โ€“] MrGG@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

But isn't that at random? He's a tailor at this point in the show, not an intelligence officer assassinating targets for his job. Doesn't "I have a list of enemies and I might kill one of them" sound slightly psychopathic? Garak does come close to being revenge-driven when he reconnects with Tain and rejoins the Obsidian Order, stating he has people he wants to take care of (such as Dukat), but I don't believe he outright says he's going to kill them, it's something much more subtle and discrete.

[โ€“] MrGG@lemmy.ca 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I have to respectfully disagree (also I bloody love that we are debating the psychological nuances of a fictional character from a show that ended, what... 25-ish years ago?)

I can't recall, off the top of my head, Garak ever telling a joke per se. He got his enjoyment out of subterfuge and misdirection - did he kill that ambassador or was he just a gardener, which was extra intriguing because earlier in the show you didn't really know what his previous line of work was, you just had suspicions. But if he did then it was in the past and it was an assassination in line with his job. He can get off on hinting about that kind of thing, and his colleagues can go along with it, because it was in the past and it was a professional hit, so the people around him don't have to worry about him doing the same to them. It's like listening to vets tell war stories, even if they killed a whole lot of people you know it was for their job and a good cause. They can even joke about it, because it's in the past.

But in this joke it's implying that he's just going to kill somebody at random, because he hasn't decide who that person is going to be. He isn't in the Obsidian Order at this point, so he's not assassinating to protect Cardassia. In Pale Moonlight he assassinates, openly even, but it's for a good cause and it is indirectly sanctioned by Sisko. His style of humour was basically masterful (and kind of dark) trolling, not blunt "har har I'm going to kill someone" jokes. I guess you could infer that he might be killing someone in a professional context, and maybe there are multiple targets so he hasn't decided which target to kill yet, but obviously it's a short form meme so there isn't room that kind of context. As is, it feels like a poor caricature of who the character really was.

That said, the joke is still funny and I have no idea why I've typed this much about a fucking meme instead of working ๐Ÿ˜‚

[โ€“] MrGG@lemmy.ca 25 points 11 months ago (7 children)

While I could hear "I haven't decided yet" in Garak's voice, and this is very funny, I don't think it fits with in-universe Garak. He's not a psychopath killing people at random โ€” he had specific reasons to kill the people he did, and generally with surgical precision. I can't see him planning to just kill someone for no particular reason.

(sorry for being that guy and criticising a joke)

(I still upvoted!)

[โ€“] MrGG@lemmy.ca 61 points 11 months ago (8 children)

He'd end up disappointed that her pussy doesn't bubble during sex, anyway.

[โ€“] MrGG@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is the kind of wholesome informative content I come to Lemmy for. Thank you for your service, sir!

Actually, wait, I have a question. How did your ball-hair feel aftwards? Did it help with testicular split ends?

[โ€“] MrGG@lemmy.ca 15 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Betelgeuse. Betelgeuse. Betelgeuse!

That makes it reappear, right?

[โ€“] MrGG@lemmy.ca 23 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And did she give you permission to post this here?

[โ€“] MrGG@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago (6 children)

This is from Insurrection, right?

[โ€“] MrGG@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm in awe of how confident you are.

[โ€“] MrGG@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Is anybody aside from Apple die-hards actually excited about this? The whole thing seems like a solution desperately searching for a problem. Expensive, you have to make an Apple store appointment to get one, will be perpetually low stock, only a few apps will be available for it, and will any games be available for it? I'm sure some die-hards will make an effort to use it constantly and be very vocal about how revolutionary it is for a couple months, but after that?

[โ€“] MrGG@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah a lot of stuff in Deep Space 9 is setup throughout The Next Generation, in a way it's a spin-off of TNG. Lwaxana Troi is the mother of one of the main characters on TNG, for example. (random fact: the actor is also the widow of the creator of Star Trek, Gene Roddenberry). She also acted on the original series, but played a different character.

There is definitely a religious slant throughout the show, especially when it comes to the Bajorans or Sisko, but generally doesn't act as a deus ex machina plot device. Okay I can think of one plot point of the top of my head where it's a bit deus ex machina, but it's still very enjoyable and arguably makes sense within the context of the entirety of the show. Overall I'd say the Bajoran / wormhole alien religion plays an important part in the show, but more for setting / theme and less for major plot points, and in episodes where it is a plot construct it is well done and makes sense in-universe, unlike some other shows I can think of (like Battlestar Galactica).

Have you been introduced to the Cardassian named Garak yet? In my humble opinion Garak (and Gul Dukat, whom you've already met) are some of the best characters ever written for TV. The character development over the seasons is organically great, for most of the characters, really.

There is an overall main story spread out throughout the show, which I think doesn't really kick into full gear until season 4 I think? Deep Space 9 is different from the other Star Trek shows in that the other shows generally don't have an overarching story, each episode is more or less self-contained, which made DS9 quite the radical contrast at the time it was released.

[โ€“] MrGG@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago (5 children)

How far into Deep Space 9 are you? If you find it interesting now you'll probably thoroughly enjoy seasons 5-7.

If you want to try watching the Patrick Stewart one (The Next Generation) I suggest starting with the pilot / first episode, then the season 2 episode "Measure of a Man" and then watch all episodes starting with season 3 onward. Keep in mind The Next Generation chronologically comes before Deep Space 9.

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