Saw this notification yesterday when I opened the App. I guess I’m deleting my Reddit account that day. It really is a shame—it was such a good app, and the developer seems like such a chill person.

I opened Apollo yesterday and got the notification it was going to be shutting down on the 30th. It was such a bummer—I really don’t plan on going back to Reddit now. Treat it like Quora, at best.

The claim was that “lack of evidence doesn’t count” and “facts are facts” essentially. Neither of which are true. I’m assuming most people aren’t reading real philosophical arguments for or against god, and the court equivalence is purely an analogy meant to make the idea more relatable.

At the end of the day—the argument that evidence is needed to prove or deny the existence of a god, is fallible. Purely because it changes based on: the evidence people have, evidence against it people lack, and how people interpret events.

Anything in the realm of religion and reality comes down to this: it’ll always end as an opinion because it can not be confirmed or denied in any quantifiable way.

Yes it does. That’s why eyewitness testimony is rocky at best and is rarely counted as hard evidence. This is especially true the further back the witness has to recall to get the memory.

You also have to ask multiple experts to agree on something before anything with evidence gains weight, but evidence looks different to experts too. That’s why almost everything has some form of division.

[-] OhSnapKracklePopped@beehaw.org -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes it does. That’s why eyewitness testimony is rocky at best and usually not considered completely sound—especially after any duration of time has passed.

[-] OhSnapKracklePopped@beehaw.org -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Logic is used in the court of law and it’s completely reliant on evidence missing to prove innocence.

Hence, “there is zero evidence that the defendant was in the location at the time of the crime which proves their innocence.”

Adding: I mean, the biggest evidence some people have is that something can’t come from nothing. We have no proof of where our something started or came from (for all we know it’s a game of marbles), so their theory is just as valid as anyone else’s until proven otherwise.

There is a huge different between “god doesn’t exist” and “proven there is no need for a god.”

Depending who you ask, there is plenty of evidence. And you don’t even need to ask the Ken Ham’s of the world—there’s literally dedicated fields of study in philosophy arguing this.

The whole “one bad apple spoils the bunch” comes from a series Descartes’ essays trying to figure out if God can be real.

Plus, everyday people have experiences that they interpret as religious events. Coincidence, whatever, that could apply—you can’t, with 100% certainty prove them wrong. You can only assume based off the information you have and your preconceived notions of the world.

Religion is complicated. People’s faith makes it even moreso.

It’d be rad if Christian could somehow migrate the Apollo app over. I know absolutely nothing about that kind of thing so, so idk how doable that is.

r/outside. That place is such a needed mental break.

Ah, this feels… nice. Good to be here!

I just created a shortcut from safari onto my homescreen. Works really well.

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