RyanHakurei

Yeah so I don't think we're disagreeing here then. I made the claim that they're very censor-heavy and toxic and you seem to confirm that yourself. My argument was never about specifically going over there.

Second, it seems a little weird to be hostile to me, reporting about a community I found to be hostile, by saying, "Well of course they are, a community was hostile to them!" Surely you see the cyclic nature this only perpetuates.

Well, if one community didn't put them in the situation to begin with maybe there'd be no anger at all? I mean, just looking at what's going on in the world both Sweden and the UK have banned puberty blockers for children and the UK is shutting down its gender clinic, the largest in the world might I add, next year for massive malpractice. Just to point out how significant that is, Sweden was at the forefront of gender therapy for minors and the UK was not far behind, so it's very very telling that they're taking these actions. So, maybe, one side of the issue is much larger than the other?

Even if they do defederate us that's basically just the trash taking itself out.

Safe space = dissent disallowed.

No examples needed, we can already observe how these people act and thus have no reason to think they'd act any differently here. Not to mention the name even alludes to a hivemind.

I didn't ask on r/detrans because it was TERFy AF when I went looking for possible information sources.

See, the community is never going to get anywhere nor gain any support if it just labels anything it doesn't like as "TERF." Yes, people in r/detrans are going to be angry, can you fucking blame them? They were lied to, groomed, and now they have to live with the after effects for the rest of their lives. I'd be pissed too if I had allowed myself to be groomed like that (which was attempted, btw).

That having been said... Yes, rare. Detransition is rare. On a planet of multiple billions of people, yes, you can find "a lot" of people, in terms of strict numeric count, but they're a tiny fraction of all people who transition.

Except this stat is highly disingenuous. For one thing it's heavily susceptible to survivorship bias (since, you know, many people that are unhappy choose the "other" method) and second off detransition is just something that's getting attention so all data on the issue will be unreliable. There's also heavy sampling bias at play, every study I've read over asks the person right after transition, during their honeymoon period, and never follows up with the person. There's also the toxic positivity that you admit exists, they could fear retaliation if they answer honestly on such a survey.

Examples like this are not rare. There is very much an unwritten rule within the trans community that you are not allowed, under any circumstance, to voice any negative experiences with transition. That's why the trans community is also so hostile towards detransitioners even attempting to take over r/detrans on Reddit.

"Yeah guys it's ok to swarm someone and tell them to kill themselves for coming out about their experiences being less than perfect, we're really just soooo accepting uwuwuwuwu"

No examples needed, we know how these people act thus this will be the case. That's assuming that someone who is even critical of feminism can get past their ideological purity tests to even get in the site.

Also, Beehaw does not seem to have public modlogs. Perhaps it's just because I am not signed in (due to not having an account) but through browsing several communities I failed to find any modlog link. Even if they do have modlogs and I am just not seeing them, do you honestly think a bunch of people who share the same ideology are going to care if mod powers are abused against someone whom they disagree with?

Show me where they are accepting of criticism to feminism, links please, because I can source my argument. Nothing in that post encourages criticism of feminism regardless of the type of criticism. It's funny because they specifically defend modern feminism, which is something many people can find criticism of.

and that if Feminists come in and flame you over it, THOSE are the people who will be getting warnings and bans.

Yeah, for many many reasons I doubt that. If anything, the admins will allow those feminists to flame you, likely giving them a pass to violate TOS, before banning you simply for posting an article.

Oh no it's a shame that they will wall themselves off said no one ever.

Lol "anti-trans bigotry" so like I said, toxic as fuck. Those anti-*ism and anti-*phobe communities are always toxic, and not only because they typically allow and encourage certain *isms and *phobias. Oh, and socialism is the top community there, you know the deadliest ideology in modern human history.

Oh, and this is an interesting read.