Tnaeriv

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[–] Tnaeriv@sopuli.xyz -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

"Compiled and edited" doesn't mean written. He just took Tesla's articles and put them in a book. The words are still Tesla's. Like, what the hell are you on? You literally linked me one of those articles, and it's in the literal description you just quoted, so you must know that.

I also don't think you know what "ghost writing" means.

But most importantly you're just arguing semantics at this point. Instead of addressing any of the actual points, you choose to argue whether Tesla's words put into a book count as autobiography. It doesn't matter. They're Tesla's words, and you know it because you literally linked to the place where he wrote them. The only reason you'd do this is if you could see you're wrong, but were too stubborn and proud to admit it, so you try to derail the discussion by changing the subject. I will not allow that. If you still want to have this discussion, bring some actual points that are relevant, if not, that's fine by me, but I will not wrestle you in mud.

[–] Tnaeriv@sopuli.xyz 1 points 6 months ago (3 children)

What do you mean "not autobiography"? He literally wrote it.

It is.

My "Wha?" was meant to express that I have no idea what you're talking about, as that sentence was absolutely unintelligible to me.

Your link doesn't work for me, but it seems like you're linking to the very quote I gave, just in the original magazine, not in the book. Why? You're only proving me right in that Tesla never said it was Edison.

[–] Tnaeriv@sopuli.xyz 1 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Where did you find that

I told you. In Tesla's literal autobiography called "My Inventions", full text of which you can find here.

I've got multiple sources who say the same

None of them are Tesla though. It's all just a giant echo chamber all quoting each other, sometimes changing it slightly, but noone ever can be bothered to actually check the primary sources.

you've got "nuh uh" for a subject better you not I were alive to know first hand

Wha?

How is sourced PBS publication "a fucking pile of garbage"

It doesn't seem to contain any sources whatsoever. They also say that "Tesla claimed" those things, yet they never say where or when he supposedly claimed that.

The link you sent doesn't seem to contain anything, but it looks like it's supposed to link to the magazine "Electrical Experimenter", so I went ahead and checked its every 1919 issue. Couldn't find what you're claiming. In fact I couldn't find anything negative about Edison at all. Curious.

The earliest source I could find of that claim is a book called "Prodigal Genius: The Life of Nikola Tesla", released in 1944, so a year after Tesla's death, and it also doesn't say where that quote is actually taken from. Interestingly, the author of this book claims that upon hearing the request for payment Edison said: "Tesla, you don't understand our American humor". So quite different to what the PBS article claims. In fact, it seems like the newer the source, the more villainous and bigoted that alleged quote becomes.

You're welcome to prove me wrong though. If you show an actual, trustworthy, primary source, I will change my mind.

[–] Tnaeriv@sopuli.xyz 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (7 children)

I'd really like to see where you got that quote, because it's complete bullshit. This story originally comes from Tesla's autobiography:

The Manager had promised me fifty thousand dollars on the completion of this task but it turned out to be a practical joke.

But you see that? He never said it was Edison, just 'The Manager'.

Btw in that same book Tesla calls Edison "a wonderful man".

Edit: nvm, I found what you quoted. It's this fucking pile of garbage

[–] Tnaeriv@sopuli.xyz -1 points 6 months ago (9 children)
[–] Tnaeriv@sopuli.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You kind of stumped me at first, didn't think you were referencing Marconi. I was almost ready to give in, but then I went looking for that court judgment. I believe it's this one. Lemme just quote you one fragment of the attached opinion:

Marconi's reputation as the man who first achieved successful radio transmission rests on his original patent, which became reissue No. 11,913, and which is not here in question. That reputation, however well deserved, does not entitle him to a patent for every later improvement which he claims in the radio field.

It seems like this case wasn't about his original patent whatsoever, only his later claimed improvement to it. Yes, the later one was invalidated, but the original was not. And it also looks like they focus more on patents of Stone and Lodge, only sporadically mentioning Tesla. They even state that wireless communication wasn't even the primary purpose of the Tesla aparatus, it was actually for his wireless energy stuff, altough he did mention it could be used for that.

So I stand by my opinion. Marconi didn't really screw over Tesla, altough it seems he did screw over Stone and Lodge.

Altough I admit I might be wrong, it's very hard to look up anything on Tesla and get objective results. Also, after spending an hour reading a 70 year old court case about patent infringment I decided I should probably find something better to do with my time and can't be fucking bothered anymore.

[–] Tnaeriv@sopuli.xyz 1 points 6 months ago (3 children)

And how was Tesla 'screwed over' exactly?

He WAS rich for a long time. He died poor because he lost all the money on his 'wireless electricity' idea that noone wanted to fund, because they knew it's not going to work. Tesla didn't know that. You know why? Because he sucked ass at physics. That's also why he would have never understood the concept of a transistor.

Please stop spreading misinformation about Tesla being some misunderstood genius screwed over by greedy corporations. He was not. He screwed himself over.

[–] Tnaeriv@sopuli.xyz 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

You're wrong. For example: some of the country of Kiribati (UTC +14) will never be in the same day of the week as Hawaii (UTC -10).

[–] Tnaeriv@sopuli.xyz 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

How long do you think making a modern AAA game takes? If those big game companies only started working on a new game after shelving the previous one, they'd go bankrupt before it's finished. That's why they pretty much always have several projects in the works at any given time.

[–] Tnaeriv@sopuli.xyz 17 points 7 months ago (6 children)

It actually did work, apparently:

Source

[–] Tnaeriv@sopuli.xyz 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Whne you jump on a train do you 'slip' backwards, because the train moved under you? No, you don't. Why? Because you have inertia. When you jump you don't magically come to a halt, you continue moving at the same speed as the train, so you don't move realtive to it. It's the same with Voyager. It didn't come to a halt when we launched it, it moves at the same speed as our solar system and thus doesn't 'slip away'.

TL;DR

An object in motion will stay in motion

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