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I don't think either of us are arguing against the Federation reusing old components.

The only point of contention is that you were sceptical that the Voyager A could be a refit of an Intrepid-class starship due to the size disparity, and my argument is that, even though I am personally not a fan, the was the current crop of Trek showrunners have decided to use the term size doesn't really matter with regards to what is or is not a refit.

[–] USSBurritoTruck@startrek.website 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Yeah, absolutely. But that's not really what the term refit means.

And if that is a refit in Starfleet parlance -- as the instagram log claims it is -- than what prevents the Lamaar-class Voyager from also being a refit. Keep in mind that in "The Star Gazer", Picard claimed that the new Stargazer was also a refit, and, according to Matalas, it was a refit of the Constellation-class Stargazer:

"Like the TMP Enterprise, it’s a massively updated refit. I like to think of it as the story of the broom: If one day you replace the handle, and another day the brush, is it still the same broom? We thought of it as a vessel endlessly repaired and upgraded, brought in-line with current-future tech, so that somewhere underneath all the lights and polish are the bones of Picard’s original ship. Does it make sense? I don’t know. But I sure like the spirit of it."

Now, personally, I would prefer to not take anything Terry Matalas says seriously, but a lot of people seem tot think he should be Trek's new torchbearer, so there's a good chance we'll see a lot more of this nonsense in the future.

Leeta's face when she's watching Rom walk in heels and it awakens something in her is pretty good, too.

[–] USSBurritoTruck@startrek.website 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I don't think your assessment of the Luna-class and the Constitution III is accurate. They are entirely different, and the PIC production crew deciding that "refit" is basically just a word that the Starfleet Corps of Engineers will drop at a hat doesn't change that.

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The instagram log that explains the history of the Titan A claims that it was constructed "using much of the internal components" of the Luna-class ship, and that's why it's a refit, but that plans to build the new ship on the spaceframe of the old were set aside mid-way through.

[–] USSBurritoTruck@startrek.website 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Makes sense. That is a mane that radiates authority and command.

Second time. He was in the episode with the aliens trying to communicate with Uhura telepathically, causing her to hallucinate zombie Hemmer.

You say that like it's a bad thing.

Yeah. Some of them are a lot of fun, too.

[–] USSBurritoTruck@startrek.website 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Right? We all know that the best tool for blending in is squeaky black pleather fascist cosplay.

It's been a busy week, but I finally got a chance to read Defiant. There's a lot crammed into the book, and most of it is fun.

• Personally I'm tired of Sisko and Worf's bickering at this point. Their fallout seemed pretty flimsy when it happened, and here Worf's dragging up a bunch of old problems from their time together on DS9 did not work for me.

• Similarly Tom and B'Elanna's bickering didn't really move the needle.

• I did like Sela, Doctor Crusher, and the Defiant's unnamed Orion drug dealer/medic rushing to save Martok that's good stuff.

• The highlight of the issue is definitely the Data Lore interactions. I especially liked their conversation as they run through the streets of Qo'noS incapacitating Red Path followers without even pausing. Data's always had the potential to be so much scarier than he is, and it worked really well here.

Roddenberry’s memo about stardates being the episode producer’s birthday multiplied by the ship’s distance from Earth was a joke.

However even when you order the episode by production date the stardates still don’t line up. Even in season three where the episodes were aired in production order, the stardates still bounce around a bit.

That's right! Thanks for the correction.

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