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I really do hope that's the case. I'm a bit skeptical but I really do wish.

A lot of mods were using 3rd party apps right? So maybe the quality degrades significantly enough.

they've basically already said they won't. With communities only shutting down for a day or two, it really doesn't create any incentive at all for Reddit to fix their ways. They'll just wait it out, things will go back to how they were before, and nobody has achieved anything at all. Either we actually make it hurt by staying away, or we won't and then they know it's OK to do this kind of thing, and they'll keep doing it because at worst people will just stay away for a day or two. Not a big deal.
And not even that. There are still an incredible amount of people active on there afaik. So I've given up at trying to convince people to stay. Let the people who want to leave leave. Our communities might just be better off for it. I'm definitely sticking around. Fuck Reddit.

Defederation I believe is a really powerful tool. More so than it seems. It creates islands of a sort and you can be more or less assured that your interests are respected. If they're not you move to an instance that federates with likeminded individuals. Makes it so much easier to isolate bad actors since they tend to group together. And then you disconnect from them and suddenly a whole avalanche of problems simply goes away. Moderation is obviously necessary but it is much more of a community effort. Keep in mind that most admins and mods are here because they want to use the forum just like you do. Your interests align much more than if a vc backed company Hosts your community with the singular goal of extracting as much value out of you as they can in whatever way available.

Oh gods please not the comment section of hacker news... I am still recovering

Hi from a kbin instance!

Hehe, the joys of troubleshooting and profiling. Isn't it fun?

The Streisand effect is a beautiful beautiful thing isn't it

For real? Oh my god...

I always found that smaller communities do better in the long term. All of the bigger communities I was a part of over the years are now dead or unrecognizable. All the smaller communities are still going strong, even 15 years later.