They always land on ad hominem attacks in the end. Very compelling stuff
juicy
joined 8 months ago
No, not the ad hominem!
It's not clear at all that a smaller number of votes are at risk. And the whole idea that whether Biden supports genocide should the result of a political calculus is abhorrent.
What do you think happens when the people of the most powerful democracy in the world look the other way when their elected officials commit genocide?
Me: Don't vote for someone guilty of genocide
You: Burn down your house or you're a hypocrite
Nothing will erase the original sin, but Israel can abide by international law and allow the Palestinians to return to their homes and give them equal rights. We are not talking about ancient history. The Naqba was just 75 years ago.
As you complain about excessive tolerance of free speech, you make my point for me.
See also: Once a Bastion of Free Speech, the A.C.L.U. Faces an Identity Crisis
It's not, though. The precedent protecting speech that does not incite imminent lawless action, Brandenburg v. Ohio, was won when the ACLU defended a Ku Klux Klan leader. That precedent protects your right to call for the workers of America to rise up and overthrow the corrupt billionaire-led capitalist regime and the politicians who do their bidding. Of course the left and right are not equivalent. But they do have at least one thing in common: deep-seated ambivalence about the free speech. Even the ACLU is faltering: NYT: Once a Bastion of Free Speech, the A.C.L.U. Faces an Identity Crisis
The Palestine issue shows how hate speech restrictions can be used against minority and oppressed groups. Just label it anti-semitism.
Wikipedia: Working definition of antisemitism
Hate speech rules can also be used against criticism of white supremacy and patriarchy. Just claim it expresses hatred of white people and men.
I'd like to point out that this thread began with me asserting that the left and right are both anti-free-speech in different contexts. I was told I was wrong. I asked how I was wrong. Then you stepped in and began arguing against free speech in certain situations. This is my precise point. The left is not pro-free-speech, but pro-speech-I-like, just like the right. Why should the right respect your speech rights if you don't respect their speech rights? The end result is everyone's speech rights get chipped away, and eventually speech restrictions will be used by antidemocratic forces within the government to entrench themselves.
And I'm sure you'll be cheerleading all along
The pier is just more theater like these air drops. In 2 months when the pier is ready for use, thousands will have already died of starvation.
No matter how many mental gymnastics you do, you are still voting for genocide if you vote for Joe Biden.