obvs

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[–] obvs@talk.macstack.net 36 points 10 months ago

Ma'am, that sounds like an awfully specific word choice for you to be using there...

[–] obvs@talk.macstack.net 15 points 10 months ago

Because they are.

The rights of an individual to live must always be held above the desire of a business to control employees.

[–] obvs@talk.macstack.net 36 points 10 months ago

Tell me you want to ban women from leaving their homes without telling me you want to ban women from leaving their homes.

[–] obvs@talk.macstack.net -2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The issue is not what meaning we(those of us who are autistic) take from it. The issue is that the people who will bully will use it as further justification to bully and to socially abuse people.

[–] obvs@talk.macstack.net 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

In both houses of Congress, majorities (232–197 in the House and 57-43 in the Senate) found Trump to be liable for the insurrection:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_impeachment_of_Donald_Trump

[–] obvs@talk.macstack.net 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

I don't know about the other people involved in this discussion, as I know that obsessive interests are part of different communities, but I am someone who studies languages and word meanings.

The information that I am sharing is not my perspective. Those words do have that context in common spoken English in the year 2023.

That would not have been the case many decades ago, but the word "identify" tends to be used ironically and sarcastically and with derision. It doesn't matter if the word is used by itself or paired with the word "self".

I'll point out the definitions on Urban Dictionary, to point this out(and not just on the first page, but on pages beyond that):

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=identify

Insisting that people who have not been professionally diagnosed use "self-identified" will lead to even more bullying and social abuse from neurotypical people who already use that context when trying to justify their bullying and social abuse.

"Self-assessed" would be a phrase which is more exact and does not have that additional context of being tied to groups that have been targeted for bullying and social abuse.

[–] obvs@talk.macstack.net 4 points 10 months ago (6 children)

Bigots commonly insist that trans people use "I identify as" rather than "I am" when the transgender people are giving their gender, because the intention is to deny those people the ability to be seen as their preferred gender and instead give the impression that those people are impostors, implying that "identifying" is more akin to "relating" instead of categorization.

Insisting that an ostensibly autistic person use "self-identified" instead of "self-diagnosed" would have the same effect.

If you want to use a proper word that's not "diagnosed", "self-assessed" would be more accurate.

[–] obvs@talk.macstack.net -2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

"What is your ethnicity?"

[–] obvs@talk.macstack.net 2 points 10 months ago

OMG a PIZZA PARTY!

[–] obvs@talk.macstack.net 30 points 10 months ago (6 children)

He can tour all four corners of his cell.

 

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