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Leader of the Venezuelan opposition says she is in hiding and fears for her life (amp.miamiherald.com)

submitted 1 month ago by Stamau123@lemmy.world to c/world@lemmy.world

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Venezuelan opposition leader María Corina Machado said she is in hiding and that she fears for her freedom and for her life, in an op-ed published on Thursday in the Wall Street Journal.

Machado, who is the main force behind the presidential candidacy of former ambassador Edmundo González, emphasized that Venezuelan strongman Nicolás Maduro lost Sunday’s election and that she can prove it.

“I write this from hiding, fearing for my life, my freedom and that of my fellow countrymen under the dictatorship of Nicolás Maduro,” Machado wrote in an editorial titled: I can prove that Maduro got trounced.

“Mr. Maduro did not win the Venezuelan presidential election on Sunday. He lost by a landslide to Edmundo González, 67% to 30%. I know this to be true because I can prove it. I have receipts obtained directly from more than 80% of the country’s polling stations.”

Machado has not been seen for 24 hours.

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[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

That would certainly track with the exit polling that Edison Research did:

https://www.edisonresearch.com/edison-research-conducts-exit-poll-in-venezuela/

Also, the official results are pretty sketch. Maduro got 51.2% exactly. That would be fairly unlikely to get a vote tally to an exact tenth of a decimal but it could totally happen. But Gonzalez got 44.2% exactly as well (the third guy clearly got an exact tenth of a decibel too because basic math). The likelihood of both of them getting that is 1 in 100 million.

[–] elmicha@feddit.org 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

How many decimal places would you like to see? I think it's pretty normal to get only one, see e.g. https://www.tagesschau.de/wahl/archiv/2021-09-26-BT-DE/index.shtml

[–] Syntha@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago

That's a graphic produced for public consumption not the official count of the election.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

US gov’t-linked firm is source of exit poll claiming Venezuelan opposition won election

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Wait...a Venezuelan pollster (Hinterlaces) did exit polling in Venezuela...where exit polling is illegal? The editor in chief of the site you are using worked for The Grayzone which is pretty notorious for spreading Russian and Chinese propaganda. They have hired many people from RT and Sputnik.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

where exit polling is illegal?

So, you admit the Edison poll is bullshit propaganda? Nice. Can’t take that back homie, the cat’s outta the bag.

(Machado with George Bush after the 2002 coup attempt in May 2005)

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Slight difference between a foreign company willing to break Venezuelan laws and the 'most independent' Venezuelan pollster, homie. Edison Research has a lot less to lose.

I do love how you show a picture of Machado and try to link her to the 2002 coup attempt despite the picture being taken 3 years later. Good job. You know what Edmundo Gonzalez was doing in 2002? Working for Chávez.

The official results were clearly made up. There was a 1 in 100 million chance that the results for Maduro and Gonzalez both landed exactly on a tenth of a percentage point. The official results were extremely unlikely. And there are receipts showing a very different result.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world -4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

foreign company willing to break Venezuelan laws

Complains about unfair election. Breaks international laws to prove it. lol 😂

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The source you cited broke international and local law....

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world -4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I thought you were okay with that? 👍

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

As an outside perspective, the discussion would have been much more interesting to read if you had had any intellectual integrity whatsoever on these.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

You mean like this:

Unfortunately, intellectual integrity is a value that is under assault in America. The age of information has given rise to the age of confusion, and we are witnessing the breakdown in our basic valuing of intellectual integrity. Although there have always been anti-intellectual forces in America, there is growing evidence that those forces are on the rise (see here, here, here, and here) and we are now seeing a shift from the uninformed voter to the misinformed voter (individuals who made decisions based on blatant falsehoods.

source

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No I mean applying the same logic regardless of your feelings.

Though I am sure you are (deliberately) misinformed as well.

It would also help if you could use your words instead of sending a gif of yourself playing cymbals.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh, you want logic:

Argumentum ad hominem

Often nowadays this term refers to a rhetorical strategy where the speaker attacks the character, motive, or some other attribute of the person making an argument rather than attacking the substance of the argument itself.

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The projection continues. You don't even understand what it means. Continue playing your cymbals, little one.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world -2 points 1 month ago

From an inside perspective, this comment would have been much more interesting to reply to if you had any intellectual integrity and contributed to the substance of the post.