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[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 12 points 1 month ago (4 children)
[–] aio@awful.systems 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Harry Potter and the Surprisingly Good Take

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 14 points 1 month ago

Harry Potter and the Broken Clock

[–] imadabouzu@awful.systems 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's the same story as has ever been. "Smart People"'s position on anything is often informed by their current economic relationship wrt to the things they care about. And maybe even Yud isn't super happy about his profession being co-opted. What scraps will he have if his own delusions became true about GPT zombies replacing "authentic voices"?

No one is immune to seeing a better take when it's their shit on the line, and no is immune from being in a bubble without stake.

I've read enough of the Yudster's work to recognize that he is particularly vulnerable to being replaced by a small shell script that outputs a massive volume of text that says very little of substance, and what little there is is weirdly racist.

[–] fasterandworse@awful.systems 11 points 1 month ago

that's a linkedin-level take

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Somebody got all his books from libgen and it shows.

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

hey no shaming libgen, that shit exists for good reason

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

You are mistaken in my reasoning, I'm saying a person with a well paid university position (which gives him access to money and the university library, which I assume pays for access to their books/papers and doesn't libgen or equivs them) should understand that a lot of training material is indeed not free. This being in addition to the university paying him for his own research, and him prob being pretty annoyed if he was replaced with an iSandberg bot and now was homeless. (This is in addition to what Yud said).

Turns out making papers about replacing the earth with fruit is something Anders-GPT can do perfectly well on its own.

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

which I assume pays for access to their books/papers and doesn’t libgen or equivs them

wrong assumption tbh. the open-access fight is happening because the publisher cartels are extortionate and access is extremely uneven. I (personally/directly) know more than a few people presently in academia who roll libgen on a daily basis because it is easier/quicker/the only option/the only actually working option for the things they need

[–] sc_griffith@awful.systems 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

it's often easier to pirate the published version of your own paper than to access it by official means

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Fair enough, my bad. No idea it had gotten that bad. But still, I wasn't intending to rag on libgen, just his idea that these things (which also includes education) are free already.

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 10 points 1 month ago

if you want to get really mad, shibboleth "elsevier". it'll be a speedrun of learning some of the worst of what's fucked atm