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The Anti-Corruption Foundation, which criticizes Putin and is reputed to be the best independent pollster in Russia, just did a poll in Germany & France. It asked: who's responsible for starting the Ukraine war?

Here's Germany's result:

Here are the polling numbers from France:

It appears that both in Germany and France, more people believe that the US is responsible for starting the war in Ukraine than believe that Putin is responsible.

Leonid Volkov of the Anti-Corruption Foundation claims that these numbers show how effective Putin's propaganda is in Germany & France.

This is a laughable explanation of the numbers given that populations of Germany and France are exposed to US propaganda to a far greater degree than they are exposed to Russian propaganda. In fact, much of Russian media is even banned in EU at this point.

One can only imagine what these numbers would look like if the populations of Germany and France were not being bombarded with US government propaganda about the origins of the Ukraine war.

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[–] Fuckass@hexbear.net 45 points 2 years ago (2 children)

This is a laughable explanation of the numbers given that populations of Germany and France are exposed to US propaganda to a far greater degree than they are exposed to Russian propaganda. In fact, much of Russian media is even banned in EU at this point

Putin can rig American elections, change star alignments, and resurrect extinct animals with his Slavic brainpan

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 26 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My fav part is that the whole Russiagate has been debunked at this point, but liberals are still running around parroting it. These are the people who pride themselves on rational thinking, but in practice they're no different from qanon nuts.

[–] Fuckass@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It was revealed a while back that Israeli intelligence was most likely behind the DNC leaks. Complete silence on it though

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 2 years ago

yeah would be awkward to talk how much foreign interference there is from Israel in US

[–] Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 2 years ago

resurrect extinct animals

Wait what? Are we finally getting cloned mammoths?!