887
Crowd Cheers as Convicted Rapist is Eliminated in Olympic Beach Volleyball
(www.thedailybeast.com)
this post was submitted on 05 Aug 2024
887 points (98.0% liked)
World News
38978 readers
2935 users here now
A community for discussing events around the World
Rules:
-
Rule 1: posts have the following requirements:
- Post news articles only
- Video links are NOT articles and will be removed.
- Title must match the article headline
- Not United States Internal News
- Recent (Past 30 Days)
- Screenshots/links to other social media sites (Twitter/X/Facebook/Youtube/reddit, etc.) are explicitly forbidden, as are link shorteners.
-
Rule 2: Do not copy the entire article into your post. The key points in 1-2 paragraphs is allowed (even encouraged!), but large segments of articles posted in the body will result in the post being removed. If you have to stop and think "Is this fair use?", it probably isn't. Archive links, especially the ones created on link submission, are absolutely allowed but those that avoid paywalls are not.
-
Rule 3: Opinions articles, or Articles based on misinformation/propaganda may be removed. Sources that have a Low or Very Low factual reporting rating or MBFC Credibility Rating may be removed.
-
Rule 4: Posts or comments that are homophobic, transphobic, racist, sexist, anti-religious, or ableist will be removed. “Ironic” prejudice is just prejudiced.
-
Posts and comments must abide by the lemmy.world terms of service UPDATED AS OF 10/19
-
Rule 5: Keep it civil. It's OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It's NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
-
Rule 6: Memes, spam, other low effort posting, reposts, misinformation, advocating violence, off-topic, trolling, offensive, regarding the moderators or meta in content may be removed at any time.
-
Rule 7: We didn't USED to need a rule about how many posts one could make in a day, then someone posted NINETEEN articles in a single day. Not comments, FULL ARTICLES. If you're posting more than say, 10 or so, consider going outside and touching grass. We reserve the right to limit over-posting so a single user does not dominate the front page.
We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.
All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.
Lemmy World Partners
News !news@lemmy.world
Politics !politics@lemmy.world
World Politics !globalpolitics@lemmy.world
Recommendations
For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/
- Consider including the article’s mediabiasfactcheck.com/ link
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
It's not that I wanna call it that, it literally is punitive justice. You're not putting any arguments down for why your approach would make things better for anyone involved other than "the perpetrator should just have been punished more".
Like I get your point of view, that rapists generally get away with it too often, but that's kind of immaterial to the argument at hand - this person didn't just get away with it. They were caught, they were convicted, they served some time, the only issue is that it wasn't enough time in your opinion and that they returned to a public life. But would more time really have made a difference? It's arbitrary as hell, since if he had spent 10 years behind bars but never apologized and returned to play volleyball in the olympics, I don't think you'd view him a lot more favorably. How do you settle on a just time in prison for ruining someone's life? It's all either arbitrary or subjective. Some would want him jailed for life, others think 20 years would be fine, other think 7, others want him dead, etc.
My point wasn't that there aren't former criminals that are remorseful, my point is that the punitive justice system doesn't care if they are. Reform is not the point and whether they come out a changed person is irrelevant. You serve your time, you get out. And frankly, a lot of the time, prison changes people for the worse. I don't think you have any data to back up the point of view that more prison time is gonna make someone less likely to commit another offense in the future. If anything, they're just more likely, since they have a hard time adjusting to life outside after a long time in jail.
You can't change the past. If she saw him mopping streets she would probably feel traumatized again, simply because of being reminded of it, not because of anything pertaining to the guy's occupation.
This isn't some national hero being cheered by people as he goes. The public hasn't forgotten. People have been booing him during the game, his face is everywhere online with "rapist" plastered right next to it, negative articles are flowing, this isn't a victory for him. Idk why this whole thread is pretending like he's won at life or something just because he gets to be in a competition at the olympics. It's probably done more to harm his life than if he hadn't participated. And again, to be clear, I'm not shedding any tears for him over here, but I do feel the very strong tide of sentiment that he should just disappear somehow.
It's like when people disingenuously say they's fine with trans people existing but that they should exist elsewhere. You know that you wouldn't even be okay with this guy serving you burgers. This same crowd would like him fired from any job.