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Hi there. I need to use my phone for work, but want to isolate anything that is work related. What's the recommended way of doing so these days? Found the Foss app called Shelter, but found it to be a bit buggy and seems to have been a while since previous update. Let me know about any tips or recommendations regarding this! ๐Ÿ™Œ

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[โ€“] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You realize even if its isolated that if anything ever goes Wrong at work, they have every right to take your phone yeah?

I'm sure you have a law to point, right? Because it sure sounds made up.

[โ€“] Zoot@reddthat.com 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

There is no law, because its not illegal to do. Or maybe I'm wrong and their is a law specifically saying its okay to do this.

Bottom line? Any time work has told me to get a work related app, or whenever it was hinted at, you can bet your ass that they'll have some you sign something as well.

I've also heard plenty of stories that this has happened. Don't learn the hard way by installing work related apps on your personal phone.

Not to mention the few times I've told work that I simply will not install a work related app, and have gotten work phones.

[โ€“] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

There is no law, because its not illegal to do. Or maybe I'm wrong and their is a law specifically saying its okay to do this.

They have the right to take your property but that law isn't written anywhere? I agree you're wrong, but not on what you think

[โ€“] Zoot@reddthat.com 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yes, that is how contracts work, similar to how Terms and Conditions generally allow websites to take any data they'd like from you, and sign away rights like class action law suits. Contracts can also say that if you have work property on your phone, they have every right to take your phone.

You clearly have never worked somewhere where said company requires you to have a work app, and it shows.

[โ€“] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Oooh, so now it's a contract thing... Still BS and made up, but I like how you backtrack.

And yes, I've worked in companies that require a work app. Some gave a phone, others allow to install in your. Current is a fortune 50 that allows installing on your own using Intune.

And you can be sure they are smart enough to not try to take away employee property because contracts with illegal terms are not enforceable, so they don't even try.

I guess you're used to being treated badly, in which case I'm sorry for you.

[โ€“] Zoot@reddthat.com 1 points 3 months ago

I guess in your case you're just financially secure enough to never have to worry.

I didn't back track at all, its always been a contract. I've seen this happen, and its the reason why I would never tell someone to ever allow company material on a personal phone, this isn't even some obscure advice, it should be well known.

Stop trying to sound like you know everything when you've specifically said you've never experienced this. It has happened, it can happen, it will happen. Put yourself in a safe position by never allowing company apps, material, email, anything on a personal phone.