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Hamas on Tuesday named Yahya Sinwar, its top official in Gaza who masterminded the Oct. 7 attacks in Israel, as its new leader in a dramatic sign of the power of the Palestinian militant group’s hardline wing after his predecessor was killed in a presumed Israeli strike in Iran.

The selection of Sinwar, a secretive figure close to Iran who worked for years to build up Hamas’ military strength, was a defiant signal that the group is prepared to keep fighting after 10 months of destruction from Israel’s campaign in Gaza and after the assassination of Sinwar’s predecessor, Ismail Haniyeh.

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[–] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The point remains that there was a more moderate influence on Hamas' side which the Israelis just killed. If you keep killing moderates the only ones left are the hardliners.

[–] Billy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

I still don't understand how anyone calls Haniyeh a "moderate".
This is the guy who was the leader of Hamas in Gaza when they took control from Fatah by throwing officials from buildings and shooting into crowds of their supporters.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 months ago

Because moderation is always relative. Haniyeh was willing to do things that Sinwar is not.

This is obvious stuff, not sure what you don't understand.

[–] small44@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Was he the one who ordered that?

[–] Billy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 months ago

Yes, he was the Hamas leader in the Gaza strip.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

After Fatah refused to peacefully leave power, having lost the election. Revolution isn't always pretty. But you can avoid it by leaving when you lose the election.

[–] Billy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The whole mess started exactly because Haniyeh was a hardliner that wasn't willing to accept any previous agreements the PLO had already made.

Hamas took over Gaza shortly after agreeing to a unity government with Fatah.

The point is, there wasn't much of a difference between Haniyeh and Sinwar.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world -2 points 3 months ago

Their entire campaign was that the PLO was an Israeli puppet regime. Expecting them to honor PLO deals is like expecting Trump to deal with Mexico in good faith.

Actions have consequences. You don't get to cry when your attempt at a seizing power is stopped by a popular rebellion.