this post was submitted on 07 Aug 2024
700 points (94.5% liked)

Star Wars Memes

11628 readers
164 users here now

Hello there. Somehow, Star Wars memes have returned. It's not a trap, this is where the fun begins.

==========

Other universes to visit:

!lotrmemes@midwest.social

!tenforward@lemmy.world

Separatist systems:

!prequelmemes@lemmy.world

Oh hey some real SW content for a change (perhaps):

!star_wars@lemmy.world

!starwars@lemmy.ml

!starwarstelevision@lemmy.world

==========

IMPORTANT

Please do not post the "good friend" or similar copypasta

==========

Our galactic citizens have requested more specific rules, so here are a few.

The general idea is, if you're looking here for rules, you're probably someone who doesn't need to have them spelled out. You're fine. But anyway:

  1. This is a community for Star Wars memes. This means typically screenshots of Star Wars media with some text or context that's meant to be funny and/or thoughtful. All SW media is welcome: movies, games, comic books, fanart... Other kinds of content, like video links or meta memes (about this community, or Lemmy), are fine as well, just keep it on topic.

  2. We are all friends here, and love (sometimes love to hate) Star Wars. Be nice to each other.

  3. As fans of fictional media, we can be passionate. If you very strongly disagree with something or someone, take a deep breath before reacting. Anger leads to the dark side!

  4. Everything in Star Wars has happened a long time ago, in a galaxy far away, and it's a rich universe of millions of words and millions of years of history. So current Earthly matters really shouldn't concern us here. In other words, leave politics, philosophies and convictions behind the door. This applies even if it's about something related to Star Wars.

  5. Original content is preferred. Reposts are fine, just please limit to a maximum of 3 per day, per citizen. It is recommended, but not required, to mark original memes as (OC) and reposts as (repost).

  6. Local mods are the Jedi council. They may take actions that are necessary to maintain peace and stability of the Republic, even beyond the rules outlined here. Follow their guidance.

  7. Regular rules of the Lemmy.world instance apply.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] SquirtleHermit@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Far be it from me to denounce some joy you found in the movie. We both obviosuly like StarWars (fellow geeks!), and if you liked TLJ's take, you do you.

I agree whole heartedly that it would be uninteresting to make Luke "saint-like". My issue isn't with him having flaws and room for growth.

But I stand by the fact that his "mistake" in the ST runs directly contrary to the central theme of and lesson learned in his original arc. It may have been "in character" for ESB Luke, but by the end of RotJ, he had been shown that the goodness in a person can overcome the darkness, even in Vader.

And TLJ didn't spend any time developing his actions, it just kinda said "well, his central arc wasn't as impactful as it seemed". Which I do believe is lazy/bad writing.

To blatantly plagerize Wikipedia.

A character arc is the transformation or inner journey of a character over the course of a story. If a story has a character arc, the character begins as one sort of person and gradually transforms into a different sort of person in response to changing developments in the story. Since the change is often substantive and leading from one personality trait to a diametrically opposite trait (for example, from greed to benevolence), the geometric term arc is often used to describe the sweeping change.

Luke's arc saw him learn to see and believe in the godness inside people, even when no one else could. Better writing would have pushed into his transformation, or found a previously unexplored flaw to examine. Having characters need to learn the same lessons over and over again is not only frustrating, it's lazy writing and poor character development.

To that point, I once heard a youtuber recommend an alternative reason for Luke's fall that would have leaned into this defining characteristic. They suggested that Luke still get the premonition regarding Ben, but believe the goodness in Ben could overcome the darkness. When Ben inevitably falls to the darkside, this could cause Luke to have a crisis of faith, fundamentally putting the plot in the same spot as the beginning of TLJ, but in a way that played off of Luke's defining moment, as opposed to grinding against it.

Now you would have had to explain Ben's turn to the darkside, but I think "my uncle attacked me" is also kind of a weak reason to betray his parents anyway (and kill his father, and attempt to kill his mother). And also fails to address his weird obsession with Vader, like that was just kind of glossed over.

Anyway, thanks for coming to my TED talk.