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Vice President Kamala Harris, the Democratic nominee for president, fired back at pro-Palestinian protesters of Israel's war in Gaza as they interrupted her speech during a Wednesday night campaign rally in Detroit.

"You know what? If you want Donald Trump to win, then say that. Otherwise, I'm speaking," Harris said with a long stare, drawing loud cheers from supporters in the crowd before chants of, "Not going back!"

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[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 13 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I mean...Do you want trump to win?

[–] TimeNaan@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] ski11erboi@lemm.ee -3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

You're assuming her completely condemning Isreal would help her win the election but I don't think it's as simple as that. There's still a massive voting block of hard core Isreal supporters in the US.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 months ago

Genocide is wrong. You have to oppose genocide. It is as simple as that.

"Oh, no! I can't stop the genocide, even though I have all the power to do that! It'll cost me votes!" Well, it's also going to cost you votes if you don't do that, so I guess we'll see in November.

[–] CrimeDad@lemmy.crimedad.work 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Is this massive voting block of hard core Isreal supporters who aren't just voting for Trump anyway in the room with us right now?

[–] Triteer@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No, they're in Missouri voting out Cori Bush, and in New York voting out Bowman. But I guess if you just want to ignore the very real evidence we have, sure, there's literally no Democrats supporting Israel.

[–] CrimeDad@lemmy.crimedad.work 1 points 3 months ago

You might recall that those were primary elections and AIPAC ran ads attacking Bush and Bowman for anything and everything. Unless they think Kamala is actually "stronger" on Israel, they're just going to support Trump in the general election anyway. Maybe her campaign thinks AIPAC can be appeased, but it still comes down to the apparent decision that they don't need anti-genocide votes. Shrimp and grits!

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago

Nobody wants Trump to win. Kamala doesn't want Trump to win. Which is why this reaction is so dismaying. It's her actions that are helping Trump to win, not the protesters'.

[–] CrimeDad@lemmy.crimedad.work -4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

No. That's why I'm frustrated with Kamala for alienating anti-genocide voters so far.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Sure, but who are you voting for? Or don't you take any responsibility for your own actions like so many others who blame her for their vote?

[–] CrimeDad@lemmy.crimedad.work 5 points 3 months ago

I don't know what you are talking about. I'm not running in the election. I only have one mathematically insignificant vote to cast. Meanwhile, the Kamala campaign can actually affect the outcome of the election by taking positions that attract or repel millions of votes.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world -2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

poor baby. can't have what you want, so, you'll just doom palestine because,

go cry

[–] CrimeDad@lemmy.crimedad.work 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yes, it's me who's dooming Palestine, some guy in New Jersey, not the feral apartheid state that's decimating Gaza or any of the countries providing weapons and financing for them to do so.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world -2 points 3 months ago

again, any universe, where trump triumphs is a death-knell to a two state solution or any humane consideration for Gaza. So think.

what are you doing?