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What can you get at Starbucks for $5 anyways? A venti wave as you drive by the window?
If you're going to be a cheapskate and not tip, sure.
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People don't understand sarcasm I guess. I mean, the guy I was responding to was ordering a Venti Wave, can't understand a joke?
As someone from a country where hospitality workers are paid appropriately by law, is there a benefit to continue supporting the tipping culture? From afar, seems like a win-win for owners. Patrons pay more to scrape from, workers cost less. Is that something you support so much you put your money into it voluntarily or am I missing something?
Every time I consider not tipping I just feel bad cause I know the workers are going to suffer for as long as it takes to make the restaurant or whatever to start paying properly.
But all the new places that now have a tip option but has never been customary to tip in the past can fuck off, don’t want to normalize that shit.
it's really hard to not tip knowing they need that tip but also hard to enable shitty practices. I think the best play is to not buy things from places that pay employees through tips. If you tip or not, the business doesn't fucking care but if you don't buy at all and encourage others to not buy it makes them pretend to care.
I understand that. I don't know how well the tipping culture works in offsetting bad pay, but it doesn't at all seem to be in favour of the workers. Sure, in a single instance it does, but not overall. It's hard to walk away knowing you could help, it's not in our nature.
But it's kind of like donating your money to the machine that makes so many lives hard because it knows people only think in the moment. Capitalising on humanity rather than being forced to show some themselves.
It's not a culture thing. It's a legal thing.
Tipped employees are paid far less than minimum wage before tips. They are guaranteed at least minimum wage if they don't earn enough in tips (the employer has to make up the difference) but they can be fired for any reason. Not pulling enough tips to cover minimum wage is, effectively, a fireable offense.
If we eliminated the sub-minimum wage rate for tipped employees, tipping "culture" would quickly disappear.
Workers can choose to not work for a shitty company that underpays them, right? Or is it the only employer or restaurant in town?