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[–] stabby_cicada@slrpnk.net 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Any one who displays both the Gadsden flag and the thin blue line flag is teetering on cognitive dissonance. The Gadsden flag represents resistance to oppression, and the thin blue line flag represents giving power to oppression.

It's only cognitive dissonance if you assume all people are equal and deserve equal rights and freedoms.

A significant percentage of self-described anarchists and libertarians believe all people are not equal - that there are good people, who will use freedom responsibly, and bad people, who will use their freedom to harm others, and it is the purpose of government (cops, sheriffs, border patrol) to protect the good people from the bad people.

Such anarchists and libertarians wave the thin blue line flag unironically and with complete ideological consistency, because they believe police brutality and oppression will be directed at those who rightfully deserve to be oppressed.

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Uhm, lots to unpack here, but I think you are mixing things up. Yes, classic conservatives do a divide like that and there is a reasonable argument to be had about the existence of people "bad" people without getting into moral arguments.

But the libertarians do not make this argument. They literally argue that being bad, i.e. acting purely selfish becomes a net positive to society through the invisible hand of the market πŸ™„

If they support police than that is on the grounds of in-group thinking ("these are our guys") or more often purely utilitarian as in: "we pay them to protect our interests".

[–] Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

It’s only cognitive dissonance if you assume all people are equal and deserve equal rights and freedoms.

Correct.


A significant percentage of self-described […] libertarians believe all people are not equal - that there are good people, who will use freedom responsibly, and bad people, who will use their freedom to harm others, and it is the purpose of government (cops, sheriffs, border patrol) to protect the good people from the bad people.

Such an individual would not be a libertarian.


Such […] libertarians wave the thin blue line flag unironically and with complete ideological consistency, because they believe police brutality and oppression will be directed at those who rightfully deserve to be oppressed.

A belief in libertarianism and the display of a Thin Blue Line flag is no longer teetering on, and is now simply cognitive dissonance. They are mutually exclusive.