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[–] SSJMarx@lemm.ee 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The belief that the nukes accelerated Japanese surrender is 100% cope made up by people to avoid feeling guilty for the weapons' deployment. The Japanese were already in the process of reaching out to surrender before the bombs were dropped, and it isn't clear that the military administration was even fully aware that the nuclear bombings were different from the many hundreds of other bombings that had already occurred in the months previous due to Japan completely losing control over the sea and sky around its home islands.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Didn't they want to surrender on their terms though?

[–] SSJMarx@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Their only term was that they get to keep the Emperor, which they were allowed to do anyway.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They weren't in much of a position to set terms, were they

[–] Habahnow@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean no they weren't, but when they set terms that they were going to get anyways... is it really setting terms?

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

Allieds had decided together and told the Japanese that they'd accept nothing but unconditional surrender. At that point asking for anything would be an attempt to set terms.