Drama in the Fediverse
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Linkerbaan the way you handle this is unhealthy. I agree with your positions on Palestine but you have to learn when to give up on this for your own sanity.
Moving forward FlyingSquid and Jordanlund are symptoms of a wider problem on lemmy, the concentration of users on one instance, that share many mods across communities. As someone who came from reddit I deleted my account altogether over a conversation with FlyingSquid where he alluded to me being a child soldier supporting Russian bot, whatever. Yeah I know supporting Ansar Allah is wildly unpopular, but they are righteous for putting themselves at risk for Palestinians, after putting up with their own genocide. These two users are generally online, at all times, and they have adopted this strange mindset that every disagreement is an attack.
No I do not support child soldiers, its obviously disgusting, but you're speaking from a computer screen when these countries have lost hundreds of thousands, their infrastructure razed, and their people starved. These people were at war with two imperialist, hyper-militarized powers, SA and the US for nearly a decade. Sorry that I support them even though they do some fucked up shit, I'm not in a place to judge in my first world bubble.
The larger issue at hand is you have federated networks that don't actually act very federated. You see it with matrix.org, mastodon.social, and Lemmy.world. Lemmy.world's decisions, alongside their moderators decisions have massive impacts on the rest of the 'fediverse'. If they add an MBFC bot you don't agree with, you can go to another underpopulated news site. Its too much power in one instance. World news bans mondoweiss despite it being okay to source on wikipedia. There's a lot of complaining that Lemmy.ml devs have too much power, yet they have given an instance they are ideologically at odds with the ability to sway all of lemmy at a whim.
I don't know. I'm rambling. I thought that Lemmy would be different from reddit. I don't know why. Its really sad to see federation not open us up to discussion more, instead just following each other around, downvoting, and banning everything we disagree with. But alas I'll delete this account too and continue browsing without one.
Hello,
Thank you for your comment.
Sorry to hear you'll delete your account.
A major cause of this is .World users proclaiming their superiority of "non-censorship" and their continuous barrage of insults against other instances.
What helps is having the veil lifted a bit so users realize .World is not 'the only sane instance'. Every instance has its biases and censorships. Though banning users on false pretenses is a new low for /WorldNews.
Don't worry, 9 months of debunking Zionists gets you a pretty strong mental. There is such a stark difference in the comment section since I started that even the most ardent Zionists have converted to concern trolling about Trump since defending israel is a lost cause.
And I'm glad you have written that down here for others to observe.
It is, albeit ever so slightly. Reddit had full lockdown on censorship and Lemmy clearly doesn't have that.
When users start noticing the censorship they will migrate, not beforehand. This is the reason these posts calling out power abuse are important.
Yeah I'm not a fan of the MBFC bot or censorship. An article about first-hand accounts by some survivors about the school bombing earlier this week was removed because it was Mondoweiss
Although tbh, I think when you insult people, even Zionists, it puts you in a bad light. It's better just to source and debunk.
I've seen both FlyingSquid and Jordanlund advocate for an end to the genocide and Apartheid, I wouldn't call them Zionists. I don't think the ban was deserved, but neither of you were that civil in the DMs
Hamas, Hezbollah, and Houthis have all done terrible things. They're all right wing reactionary resistance armies that formed under violent oppressive foreign intervention such as colonialism, occupation, or blockades. That kind of violence doesn't come out of nowhere, but both need to be solved
Wow you are more delusional every day