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I've only ever used desktop Linux and don't have server admin experience (unless you count hosting Minecraft servers on my personal machine lol). Currently using Artix and Void for my desktop computers as I've grown fond of runit.

I'm going to get a VPS for some personal projects and am at the point of deciding what distro I want to use. While I imagine that systemd is generally the best for servers due to the far more widespread support (therefore it's better for the stability needs of a server), I have a somewhat high threat model compared to most people so I was wondering if maybe I should use something like runit instead which is much smaller and less vulnerable. Security needs are also the reason why I'm leaning away from using something like Debian, because how outdated the packages are would likely leave me open to vulnerabilities. Correct me if I'm misunderstanding any of that though.

Other than that I'm not sure what considerations there are to make for my server distro. Maybe a more mainstream distro would be more likely to have the software in its repos that I need to host my various projects. On the other hand, I don't have any experience with, say, Fedora, and it'd probably be a lot easier for me to stick to something I know.

In terms of what I want to do with the VPS, it'll be more general-purpose and hosting a few different projects. Currently thinking of hosting a Matrix instance, a Mastodon instance, a NextCloud instance, an SMTP server, and a light website, but I'm sure I'll want to stick more miscellaneous stuff on there too.

So what distro do you use for your server hosting? What things should I consider when picking a distro?

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[–] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Debian, with a Kubernetes cluster on top running a bunch of Debian & Alpine containers. Never ever Ubuntu.

[–] TDK3D@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Never ever Ubuntu

Why's that?

[–] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Because Ubuntu is the worst of both worlds. Its packages are both old and unstable, offering zero benefit over always-up-to-date distros like Arch or the standard Debian.

Especially when you're running a containerised environment, there's just no reason to opt for anything other than a stable, boring base OS while your containers can be as bleeding edge, crazy, or even Ubuntu-based as you like.

[–] TDK3D@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 month ago

Gotcha 👍 makes sense

[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 5 points 1 month ago

Probably mostly for their corporate fuckery

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 4 points 1 month ago

it’s just less reliable, more corporate, more bloated debian

… so why would you?

[–] h0bbl3s@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

I second this. I run fedora on my desktop and debian on the server. Docker works great on debian as well.