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Joe Biden’s DOJ Is Claiming “There Is No Constitutional Right to a Stable Climate” (jacobin.com)

submitted 1 year ago by JoeCoT@kbin.social to c/nottheonion@lemmy.world

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In the same week large swaths of the US were under extreme heat warnings, Joe Biden’s Justice Department filed its most recent motion to dismiss a landmark climate case by arguing that nothing in the Constitution guarantees the right to a secure climate.

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[–] Aesthesiaphilia@kbin.social 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I mean...it doesn't

Who thinks it does? What a silly idea

[–] zib@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Correct, the constitution does not literally call out the right to a stable climate, however it's kinda hard to make good on any other constitutional right if populations being culled by extreme heat becomes the new worldwide norm.

[–] andysteakfries@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Yes, we should take aggressive action to eliminate every trace of fossil fuels currently in use.

But also, bringing legal action to enforce a law that pretty plainly doesn't exist doesn't do anyone any good.

[–] Aesthesiaphilia@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Cool, but don't try to make the legal argument that the Constitution says so and so when it doesn't. It's a giant waste of time and money.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

it’s kinda hard to make good on any other constitutional right if populations being culled by extreme heat

That also does not exist in the US (yet), nor will it even when we pass the 1.5°C target, nor when we keep going beyond it and pass major climate tipping points causing irreversible changes. This kind of hyperbole doesn’t help, when we have a real, serious issue

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah the declaration of independence mentioned a few things like the rights of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness, all of which are impossible if the oceans are boiling. These politicians have failed in their duties.

[–] Zoboomafoo@yiffit.net 3 points 1 year ago

That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government

[–] stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Did they even track and measure weather anywhere close to what we have now?

Following centuries old doctorines is still weird to me

[–] Aesthesiaphilia@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's the basis of law and order. You can't just do whatever you want, that's a dictatorship.

[–] stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub -2 points 1 year ago

I’m not arguing for anarchy haha

I’m just saying that it’s not modified more/restructured/etc

Seems like governmental philosophizing (surely there’s a term for this) has gone stale these days.