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Just make sure that Martin takes decent notes so that Sanderson can be tapped to bring the story home. Sanderson did a marvelous job finishing Robert Jordan's giant story.
I love Sanderson, he is my favorite fantasy author, and you are correct about his marvelous job finishing WoT, but he is just not the right fit tonally for ASOIAF. He doesn't even write swear words, and GRRM's books are fairly liberal with the fucks and the cunts. I would however be in favor of Joe Abercrombie or someone with a bit of a darker bent to their writing taking over if needed.
Kelek's breath, man. He swears all the storming time.
Rust and ruin, I knew someone would bring up this crem.
Not to mention his Mormonism may be at odds with the sex scenes.
Just add more women - polygamy was all the rage in Mormonism back in the day.
Abercrombie would be a great fit. Another good one would be Ed McDonald
I would fuck with an Abercrombie takeover so hard.
On the other hand, if you let Sanderson do it we would have the whole series finished and published within 18 months of GRRM passing it on.
People are going to gnash their teeth and rend their garments over those books no matter what.
I hear he plans to bring in Patrick Rothfuss to pick up where he left off and also not finish the story.
I was perfectly fine with the amount of annoyance I felt before I read this comment but you just had to bring up another unfinished series didn't you? Now I'm all flustered.
Ugh. That one hurts. Doors of Stone.... where you at?
Brando Sando has answered the question a bunch of times, and said he's not interested at all. Also, GRRM previously said he would never allow it to be finished by anyone else. Who knows? Maybe the publisher will force it.
If I remembered correctly, Jordan had also expressed similar thoughts, look how that turned out.
If he really wanted it to remain unfinished he could have pulled a Pratchett and have his hard drive steamrolled.
(Though, to be fair if you really want your data gone you should probably use thermite.)
Or just drill a few holes in it, then remove the disks from the drive and microwave them for 10 minutes
That isn't always as effective as you'd think, especially with SSDs...
Yeah, that'd probably do it (though I'm not sure what it'd do to your microwave.
Thermite is guaranteed to destroy your data (and probably the floor, or the floor and the table if you're dumb enough to do it on a table, and anything too close to your data... but that's besides the point, the data will be unrecoverable, that's the point).
Joe Abercrombie would be my vote if someone was doing it.
Sandersons books all feel like superhero meets fantasy, and he's too much of a choir boy to match Martin's tone.
I'd agree, it's not an ideal match. But another talented, perhaps up-and-coming writer (as Sanderson sort of was at the time) could do a good job.
@fpslem @SpruceBringsteen
I think the same matter of authorial obligations pertains in that case
https://mastodon.social/@IlluminatiGanga/112993667854482371
but it's a common society wide problem, Authors don't meet their obligations to readers, Netflix does not meet obligations to fans, and companies does not meet obligations to consumers.
Sanderson did a great job, but my only critique was that the Tower of Genji part seemed rushed. The build up to that was almost as important as the Last Battle.
Also, I've read the series nearly 3 times and I stand by this statement: Fuck Faile. Fuck Perrin. Useless cunts
I liked Perrin a lot...until Faile showed up in the first place.
But I can't argue your statement.
A whole book spent hunting for her? C'mon
I'm with you though he had so much potential in the beginning. His overall story is cool, but I just couldn't get past RJ forcing me to read a whole book of nothing but Perrin tying knots in a strip of leather.
No mention of the rush of the ending? Who WAS Elan and why the link to Rand? So many questions left
The ending was pretty fast but it hit a lot of the points it should have. I don't remember Elan since it has been a while and I'm neck deep in Malazan.
The link with Rand: i am guessing you mean what happened to him at the end? That makes sense if you recall him crossing balefire streams with Mordin in Shadar Lorgoth
Yes elan is moridin. They have a sit and chat in one Rands later visions, and even resemble each other as I recall.
I don't think the rushing was Sanderson's fault, but Jordan's for leaving so much unfinished. My understanding is that when Jordan died, Sanderson was asked to write the "final book". When looking at the material that remained to be written Sanderson said it needed way more than one more book. He ended up writing three, but I wonder if the material may have called for five. Sanderson had his own stuff he wanted to write and didn't want to live for more than three-book-years-worth in Jordan's universe. I can't blame Sanderson for that.
Oh, I'm not saying I'm displeased at all - I'm just saying, that in a perfect world, I would have liked to have had him spread out the writing a bit more. You're absolutely right - he had his own shit to do. He did an amazing job, all things considered. He also did us WoT fans an HUGE HUGE solid, and finished the damn thing when there was next to no hope that it actually would be finished.
I personally wonder if Jordan wrote himself into a corner with the Tower of Genji. The magic system and tone didn't really match the rest of the WoT universe. If you look too closely at it, it raises all sorts of nasty continuity questions for the universe as a whole. The Tower of Genji smells like a deus ex machina.
Sanderson is genuinely a pillar of modern fiction
writes a lot, anyway
One does not tap Sanderson anymore. Sanderson taps the zincmind that he spiked from Martin.
Think GRRM has said when he dies he’s not letting anyone finish his work and his wife said she’d stand by that.
I’d like to see if the writing can salvage GoTs ending but I gotta feeling GRRM gave up because it doesn’t