krashmo

Same. I do pretty close to everything I can to help but I don't have any illusions that it's going to fix the problem

That's not untrue but the problem with phrasing it that way is that people will interpret it to mean we can implement relatively unnoticed measures to mitigate climate change. That may have been true 50 years ago but it's not anymore. Meaningful change will be very painful at this point and that's exactly why it's not going to happen until it's literally impossible to ignore the problem. You would think we're there already but humans are very good at maintaining delusional thinking.

More hopium. We're in that funny period in public sentiment between "climate change is a hoax" and "it's too late to do anything about it". Both are completely incompatible with the amount of societal reconfiguration required to minimize the impacts of climate change. We will not even consider drastic measures until more than half of us are dead. Call it doomerism if you like but that's where we are and anyone taking an honest look at the situation knows it.

Maybe not before but it is now

You're assuming they give a shit what you think about their actions. I don't think that's true at all. We've been in the "what are you going to do about it" phase of authoritarianism for a while now.

Yeah definitely, just saying I'm not sure polite is the right label for a response with that kind of subtext.

Is that polite though? I get that it isn't explicitly rude but I pretty much only use that phrase as short hand for "why are you talking about this you fucking weirdo?" I think it's subtly rude at best.

I've known this guy for a long time. He's grown up in rural America so he has all the same reasons for supporting Trump as those people typically do with the added oddity of being more impacted by the negative outcomes of those policies. Guns, immigration, general economic stuff. At least those are the reasons they'll state publicly.

It seems more like an in-group thing than anything else to me. I would have expected some sort of expression of disagreement with Trump on this particular issue but he says he thinks Democrats will do the same thing despite all evidence to the contrary. That is how he's chosen to rationalize the situation.

I know a Ukrainan born US citizen with a significant amount of family still living in Ukraine who is also a Trump supporter. He hates Russia and wants Ukraine to maintain independence. I asked him a couple of weeks ago what he thought would happen to Ukraine if Trump was reelected and he said Ukraine would probably be left to fend for themselves. This statement did not come with remorse or condemnation, it was delivered in the same way you would describe the winner of a sporting event. A simple statement of fact.

I don't know how to respond to that kind of thinking. If the understanding that your vote might lead to the death of your family members doesn't break through the political polarization in this country and make you reconsider then I don't think anything will.

$600 million / 55,000 claims = ~$10,000

Not a great deal imo but not exactly $3 either

I'm completely confident that people 150 years from now will say very similar things about us and our contemporaries. Maybe that knowledge will help you chill the fuck out, even just a bit.

He is a serial rapist so that is about as on-brand as it gets.