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yeah an alternative proposal is they're only public to the local instance admin and it groups its votes, sends them to the instance hosting the content, which adds them as totals annotated with the server.
But they're still not private. Instance admins can see them, and you can still see which instances are voting on what content which doesn't really improve much. Especially for small instances (e.g. if I have 10 people on an instance and only one user was active in a date range all votes are theirs).
Given how there are already problematic incentives to large instances I'm not sure we want to add to administrator (and everyone they care to share with) power based on size. Or deincentise users from signing up to small instances.
They shouldn't be private. Have you seen the way that lemmy.world uses botting to force this site and others to defederate after drowning them out?
Just how far are you people going to take the cargo cult of Reddiquette?
Why are you even imitating mainstream social media rules from the 3rd most racist site in the universe? What broke people here?
Hiding a user's votes is not what turned Reddit into what it is. Showing a user's votes, however, enables a lot of the worst behavior on sites like X, and I don't want to see that stuff start happening on Lemmy. Frankly the best solution is what Hexbear already did - remove downvotes entirely.
If you could direct me to the scientific study that compared social media sites with and without hidden likes/upvotes, then I would be happy to read it. Otherwise we're both going off of vibes so fuck you.
First of all, because the Lemmy dev sucks at coding, and you guys are on ActivityPub, I can see all likes publicly anyways. What you're doing is like pretending Mastodon private posts are actually private. It's just an inconvenience.
You're the only one making vibes based claims about why Elon was right to hide likes.
This is typical ActivityPub jibber jabber. You had one bad experience with another user abusing a feature, so nobody else gets to have it. Guess what? People use blocking maliciously. I'm using the reply feature right now maliciously.
I'm stating the obvious about how much easier platform manipulation is for instance admins - who have a conflict of interest about this - and itinerant technoskulkers like me to be the only ones who can tell when something is fishy with the likes.
The "stop bullying" argument for destroying ActivityPub is always so fucking funny to me. You people removed quote tweets. I can't quote myself on basic Mastodon or search my own posts because people like you get taken seriously. But fortunately basic Mastodon sucks for many other reasons. It's no skin off my back. Just validates my instincts about these projects when people try to pass off their personal issues as a reason to make platforms worse.
What do you mean by "you people?"