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European Fascism doesn’t exactly require a whole lot of beating, this time around. In 1933, Germany had a large population of young people that could be fed into the meat grinder of the eastern front. Right now, all of Western Europe is facing an impending demographic catastrophe with incalculable consequences. Case and point: Germany’s strongest birth rates have been in the years of 1962 to 1965 with a pretty sharp decline and eventual stagnation around the mid 2000s. Retirement age in Germany is 65-67, thus in the waning years of this decade, Germany will face labour shortages it will not be able to accommodate. Now, imagine if fascists come to power in Germany and actually expel the quarter of the population that has a migration background (which, on average, is considerably younger than the “Bio-Deutsch” population). The country would be in ruin effectively immediately. This is no economic basis for a major military campaign on the scale of Operation Barbarossa.
The situation is not much better in the rest of Western Europe.
Fascism would still need to be beaten regardless. Many people within fascist countries will be in grave danger. The Soviet Union had a moral imperative to dismantle fascism whether or not Barbarossa happened.
Overall this wave of fascism isn’t really expansionist anyway (besides Israel), but that’s not the only threat of fascism.
I’m a Central Asian person living in Germany. I’m keenly aware of the threat to the lives and livelihoods of us, a threat that has been made ever more clear since October 7th. However, in terms of destructive force that can be unleashed onto the rest of the world, this wave of fascism is shaping up to be the farce to the tragedy it was last time around.
You make excellent points about the demographic situation and the like, and it's great to read something positive like that. But it seems really off to be downplaying the threat that fascism poses to the world. To come out and say that it doesn't have the destructive potential this time around is just wild, considering the fascists didn't have a nuclear arsenal last time. And that's not the only reason that it could be even worse in a WWIII scenario than it was in WWII, with the absence of anything like the Soviet Union now, as u/edge was pointing out.
My mind honestly goes to cannibalistic fascism in which these countries utilize fascism to forestall outright labor disputes that in the end make shit EVEN WORSE because in the end fascism is an illogical reactionary ideology that is only good at murdering a crap ton of people.