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[–] moon@lemmy.cafe 35 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Begging iPhone to play the catch up game and just have Android's basic features lol

[–] Remavas@programming.dev 39 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Except that many Android phones also don't have replaceable batteries anymore.

[–] 1984 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Hope it doesnt lead to smaller batteries though. It feels like it could since they have to put the battery so it's accessible.

[–] GeekySalsa@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

But it'll also allow you to just carry 2 batteries and swap if needed. Even if you don't want to do that, when your battery ages enough that you can't at all go through a typical day, you can easily change it out yourself to a fresh one to refresh your phone.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

Unfortunately it won't.

This legislation isn't for batteries that replaceable. More like "can be swapped by a technician in 5 minutes" replaceable.

Additionally, if the manufacturer guarantees (IIRC) 70% capacity after 3 years, they don't have to do anything at all.

[–] Michal@programming.dev 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

To be honest I prefer to use a power bank, it's more convenient than having to swap batteries (i used to do that too) as you don't have to power down the device. And one power bank can power many different devices, so i don't have to buy a new one when i Change phones, and can use the same power bank to charge my earbuds, kindle, smartphone, and a variety of other devices, or lend it to someone.

Having said that, i did have my Nexus 6P battery degrade and had to be RMAd, lucky for me it was within warranty. Battery is the fastest failing component so being replaceable will go a long way in prolonging devices lifetime, but doesn't have to be user-replaceable.

[–] el_abuelo@programming.dev 2 points 3 weeks ago

Currently batteries are replaceable, but due to their design it's unlikely to be worth the expense. Forcing them to make it user replaceable ensures it's easy to do, and cheap - so even if you don't want to do it as a recharge mechanism, it is still to your advantage to have it so when your battery does inevitably deteriorate you can swap it out at your convenience.

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Depends on what you mean by "replaceable". It's quite easy to physically replace the batteries on most modern phones. The problem is actually acquiring the batteries, as well as the new batteries actually working after installation. Apple is the only one that specifically programs their devices not to work properly if you replace the components in them yourself, and refuses to sell you OEM components.

[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh, here he is. I was worried for a second we’ve lost him.

[–] cheddar@programming.dev 5 points 3 weeks ago

Never lose cum.

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world -4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I switched from android to Iphone and there is nothing I miss, I certainly don't miss how shit the the usb in-ears were on android, all of them haf issues

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I feel so lucky to have never bought into the apple mobile ecosystem every time I have to test any of my web apps on iOS safari. What a shit browser (which you have no choice but to use).

Not to mention having to own several special lightning shit cables to support my test devices. 🤮 They only switched to usb-c because the EU forced them. That detail alone is enough to know what a shit line of products they are cultivating.

But yeah takes me about one second to miss my android device

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I have switched straight to iphone 15, so USB C cable, not that I use it, airpods are lightning, not that I use it, since I am charging both wirelessly.

The website I work on, works for fine for me, so not sure what your issues are.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Wireless charging: because it's always reliable, convenient, and available.

Do you support any older iOS versions? Anything that uses video, PWA or features added to other browsers >2 years ago? If yes to any of those questions, I have to think you don't actually support/test in iOS safari. Which btw often works differently between iphone and ipad. And their simulator support only goes back a couple of versions, despite the fact that Safari does not auto-upgrade and is tied to major os releases. So if you have users with older devices, you cannot ever take for granted that your app/website will work fine for them without testing on either a simulator (excludes OS versions over like ~2 years old), or maintaining and testing on a physical library of devices with older versions that you make sure you always refuse updates on.

It's abysmal to support safari ios unless you don't care about lower income/education users who have 5 year old devices.

[–] joshkrz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Safari and videos are a nightmare to work with, there's always something that doesn't work right, when Chrome and Firefox work fine.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

Are you me? I feel like I never speak to anyone who knows that pain like I know it.

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You are right, I don't, because they don't need PWA to use the website, and there is no video content, life is good, and those who can't use it are dropped, we are not going to sacrifice developer capacity to support a very minority of users.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

That's the apple user credo. "If I can't do it, it's really better anyhow because I didn't need to".

A decent web browser isn't deeply tied to the operating system version and isn't 5 years behind on some features while pigheadedly refusing to ever implement others. A decent web browser doesn't force you to use it. You choose it among other options and seek it out. A decent electronics company doesn't force you to buy proprietary cables just to charge their devices.

Congratulations though, your website users are all wealthy westerners.

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They are the farthest thing from it, lmao, you dont even know how wrong you are, but I see you stí´ possess the teenage angst of ios v android wars

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Okay, if "angst" means I routinely suffer on the job because of shitty apple business practices, call it whatever you want. The reason I have all these issues is that apple architected safari this way, and we have a lot of lower income users that we don't have the privilege of ignoring. I'm guessing many of them know if they update their OS they will experience planned obsolescence first hand, so they have no choice but to use a 5 year old web browser that was 3 years behind standards on the day it was released.