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[–] crapwittyname@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm going to disagree with you. What else would you expect? I could also challenge you to think carefully about the consequences that this kind of policy would have, but I have only a smidgen of hope that you actually would.

[–] BaroqueInMind@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Please, by all means I welcome you to challenge my opinion by refuting it here. My mind is not made up, I'm a self-admitted humble idiot who deserves the benefit of the doubt.

[–] crapwittyname@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What opinion exactly? You've only stated that you agree with someone else's.
If you think that subjecting prisoners of certain crimes to inhumane conditions is a good idea, then it's a simple refutation: the justice system is not perfect and people who are innocent WILL be subjected to that treatment on occasion, which is unacceptable - a similar argument to the one against capital punishment.
If you want to get into a debate on rehabilitation vs. punishment then that's another matter.

[–] BaroqueInMind@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am not being sarcastic when I say this, but you have convinced me to change my mind with a single simple refutation.

[–] crapwittyname@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Well that is the very pinnacle of discourse my friend. Thank you very much for being intelligent enough to do it and brave enough to say it. I like to think I do the same when I encounter a sound argument. Are you a scientist by any chance?

Edit to add:

the elderly professor took the American by the hand and said — with passion — ‘My dear fellow, I wish to thank you. I have been wrong these fifteen years. We clapped our hands red.

~Richard Dawkins

[–] BaroqueInMind@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Are you a scientist by any chance?

No, and I am barely intelligent enough to recognize that I'm stupid.

[–] crapwittyname@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Nope. The ability to change your thinking on a topic as emotive as this is rare in my experience, and a sign of intelligence in my opinion. As is realising you're stupid. The vast majority of true idiots don't.